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Book of the Revelation to John > 22 triumphs?

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Hi friends,

Some time ago, Stevem recalled us the City of God of St. Augustine has 22 chapters.

... :-? ... Yesterday I remember this structure is the result of The Book of the Revelation to John

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Re ... #Structure
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The Millennium

1. The beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire. (19:11-21)
2. Satan is imprisoned in the bottomless pit for a thousand years. (20:1-3) <---------- :)
3. The resurrected martyrs "and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image" live and reign with Christ for a thousand years. (20:4-6)

After the Thousand Years

1. Satan is released and makes war against the people of God, but is defeated. (20:7-9)
2. Satan is cast into the lake of fire. (20:10)
3. The Last Judgment: the wicked, along with death and Hades, are cast into the lake of fire. (20:11-15)

The New Heaven and Earth

1. A new heaven and new earth replace the old. There is no more suffering or death. (21:1-8) <---------- :)

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Well... Its curious...

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[...] 20:5 The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection. 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 20:7 And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 20:8 and shall come forth to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 20:9 And they went up over the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down out of heaven, and devoured them. [...]

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21:1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth are passed away; and the sea is no more. 21:2And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven of God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. 21:3And I heard a great voice out of the throne saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he shall dwell with them, and they shall be his peoples, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God [...]

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Well, its the structure of 22 inspirated in the The Book of the Revelation to John?

what do you think, friends?

Re: Book of the Revelation to John > 22 triumphs?

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mmfilesi wrote:Hi friends,

Some time ago, Stevem recalled us the City of God of St. Augustine has 22 chapters.

... :-? ... Yesterday I remember this structure is the result of The Book of the Revelation to John
The Book of Revelation was not divided into 22 chapters at the time of St. Augustine :

The significance of the number 22 in this instance is related to there being 22 hebrew letters and 22 books of the old testament in the Alexandrian canon.

The Alexandrian canon is composed of 22 books divided into four categories, Torah, Histories, Wisdom and Prophets. In the Septaguint Ruth follows Judges and Lamentations follows Jeremiah, and these two smaller books in some traditions are considered as appendices to those they follow, giving 22 books.

The Jewish historian Josephus, 1st century c.e., refers to 22 biblical books in ‘Against Apion’ 1.42. It is also refered to by several early church fathers and is reflected in the arrangement of the earliest complete Septaguint manuscripts c.4th century c.e. ["The Jewish Study Bible", Oxford University Press 1985].

St. Jerome [c.347-420] in ‘On the books of Samuel and Malachi’ wrote, "As there are twenty-two letters through which, in Hebrew, we write whatever we have to say, and the range of the human voice is defined by their intrinsic sounds, so too there are reckoned 22 books by whose words and principles the still weak and dependent infancy of the righteous man is nourished by the teachings of God." In 1531 Cornelius Agrippa in his ‘Occult Philosophy’ wrote "Twenty-two signifies the fullness of wisdom, and so many are the characters of the Hebrew alphabet, and so many books does the Old Testament contain." [Decker, R. "Art and Arcana" 2004]

It is probably in relation to the same symbolism that Revelations was later divided into 22 chapters (by John Langdon c.13th century - his dictionary of Hebrew was also often included with copies of the Vulgate).
Well, its the structure of 22 inspirated in the The Book of the Revelation to John?

what do you think, friends?
It is possible the symbolism of 22 as a number of completion influenced the number of standard allegorical figures (21 trumps + fool), and the division of revelations. Plausible arguments can be made that the symbolism of revelations influenced at least the seven trumps 15-21.

(A Greek version of revelations (which I don't recall the details of off-hand) was divided into 24 chapters, possibly in reference to the Greek alphabet).

Re: Book of the Revelation to John > 22 triumphs?

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I put here the post of Ross:

I think somebody (Shephard?) made the most systematic attempt at correspondences between the Apocalypse and the trumps. I don't have his book so I can't say much about it.

I think you're right, some of the Book of Revelations' imagery is "too brazen to ignore". But I think it is explicable more in a general sense than as a systematic attempt to correlate chapters.

My own opinion is that the imagery of the Book of Revelation was so much a part of the late-medieval consciousness that that in itself explains why there may be textual-iconographic correspondences. The last seven (or eight if you include Death) trumps show "Apocalyptic" subjects - Hell, the Heavens, Judgement. The trump XXI as it is portrayed in the Visconti-Sforza pack brings to mind the Celestial city; but the 22 trumps don't need to systematically illustrate the Apocalypse for such an image to be the last one - it is a fitting last image that everyone would understand. If it was the highest card - which we don't know.

Symbols like the Devil, the, Star(s), Moon and the Sun are too generic to derive from a particular source. So too Death and the Devil. Devil doesn't correspond to chapter 15 of Revelation, but 16 sounds good for the Tower. (Vials being poured on the earth!)

I think calling John a "Magician" in chapter one is unjustified. A prophet is a very different thing from a magician in medieval sources - one tells the truth, the other lies and deceives. John calls himself a servant who gives a prophecy - not a magician who performs wonders or tricks.

Lastly, most importantly, we know how the Apocalypse was illustrated at the same time as the tarot, and they don't look anything alike - even when there are twenty-two illustrations! (The Flemish Apocalypse is the best example, but there are also popular books like Shepherd's Almanacs and other illustrated Apocalypses that don't necessarily have 22 subjects).

So by studying the Apocalypse, you are entering part of the late-medieval world-view; by studying the early tarots, you are entering the late-medieval (some would say "renaissance", but it's a value-judgement) world-view; the Apocalypse informs the tarot, not as a direct source, but as a background source - at least the last part of the trump series is constructed according to a world-view deeply informed by the Apocalypse, with the expectation of a last Judgement and resurrection, and (maybe, depending on how you interpret it) the descent of the New Paradise, the Celestial City.

In answer to whether the trumps, theoretically, *could* have been a systematic attempt to portray to 22 chapters of the Book of Revelation, the answer is yes - this division of the book was widespread in Latin bibles by this time.

In answer to whether Christians knew the Hebrew alphabet had twenty-two letters, the answer is yes, it was basic education (for those who were educated) and the Hebrew alphabet (the names of the letters, not the form) was present in the Latin bible.

Whether Christians studied and knew Hebrew, the answer is - very seldomly (Ramon Llull for instance knew some Hebrew, and so did Pierre Amiel (Ameilh) in the 14th century - one could find others). If I remember correctly, there is a good article in the Jewish Encyclopedia about Christian knowledge of Hebrew in the middle ages and early 15th century.

Thanks to NightWing, Stephen Langton (Langdon) was brought up. He proves to have been a bad choice for ignorance of Hebrew! He compiled a dictionary of Hebrew words from the Old Testament, with definitions. His dictionary is present in many manuscripts of the Latin bible, as an appendix, quite often immediately following the Apocalypse.

So when we consider that Andrea of Caesarea divided the Apocalypse into 24 chapters in Greek, I am inclined to think the Greek alphabet might have been on his mind (after all, he would have numbered his divisions with Greek letters in the original in the sixth century); and when we consider that Langton had an interest in Hebrew words and divided his Apocalypse into 22 chapters, it is not far-fetched to think he might have been thinking hebraically.

But who knows? ;-)

Ross

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In the Noblet Judgment that mmfilesi posted- who do you think is the person been resurrected?
That person looks decidedly different from the praying figures- whom some say is Mary and Joseph or Adam and Eve.
I surmise that that is a Jewish person who has converted to Christianity and can now be resurrected.
What is anyone's thoughts on this?

~Lorredan

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My friend Corbio said me:
En el siglo XIII empezó la práctica de la división por capítulos.

Coloco una cita para ampliarte información:

La Biblia fue dividida en capítulos en el siglo XIII (entre los años 1234 y 1242), por el teólogo Stephen Langhton, entonces Obispo de Canterbury, en Inglaterra, y profesor de la Universidad de París.

La división del Antiguo Testamento en versículos fue establecida por estudiosos judíos de las Escrituras, llamados masoretas. Con hábitos monásticos y ascéticos, los masoretas dedicaban sus vidas a la recitación y la copia de las Escrituras, así como a la formulación de la gramática hebraica y las técnicas didácticas de la enseñanza del texto bíblico. Fueron ellos los primeros que –entre los siglos IX y X– dividieron el texto hebraico (del Antiguo Testamento) en versículos. Influenciado por el trabajo de los masoretas en el Antiguo Testamento, un impresor francés llamado Robert d’Etiénne dividió el Nuevo Testamento en versículos en el año 1551. D ‘Etiénne vivía entonces en Génova, Italia.

Hasta buena parte del siglo XVI, las Biblias eran publicadas solamente con divisiones en capítulos. Sucedió así, por ejemplo, con la Biblia que Lutero tradujo al alemán, alrededor del 1530. La primera Biblia que incluyó totalmente la división de capítulos y versículos fue la llamada Biblia de Ginebra, publicada en 1560, en Suiza. Los editores de la Biblia de Ginebra optaron por los capítulos y versículos reparando en la gran utilidad que tenían para la memorización, localización y comparación de pasajes bíblicos.
(De la página IglesiaJesús. com)
Thats mind, in the century XIII begin the chapter division in the Bible. I need verify this finding Italian Bibles century XV, but it is encouraging date :)

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I surmise that that is a Jewish person who has converted to Christianity and can now be resurrected
Very interesting, thanks Lorredane. Why do you think this?