Tarot History Forum

* The iconography regarding this card is not consistent.

1-Noblet : Male / Female
2-Dodal: Male-Male
3-Conver: Male-Male
4-Sforza Castle: Male-Female =

While we don't know the dating of the Sforza Castle card, I personally believe it is a sample of the type of cards that our remaining Tarot de Marseille decks are based on, regardless of the date of the actual deck itself.

I suspect that this is just another case of degradation to an image by sloppy copying by unconcerned cardmakers. I'd certainly be much more likely to accept an early Man and Woman degrading into god knows what, turning later into twins.

Jean Noblet Tarot:

Jean Dodal Tarot:

* Absolutely agreed with you.

- But also works the male/male pair as a depiction of a oneself meet.

Given the early masculine-feminine pairing under the Sun and, importantly, the WALL, I would suggest that the image is of earthly paradise...

* The point just for me is that we never realized that the wall NEVER did hide the SUN.

-That is the message of this amazing,outrageous card...

. So just see the blind left sweet man coming from the left.

In mediæval representation, walled gardens were common enough: basically the 'within' held a cultured safe and paradisiacal garden from the wilderness of that which was outside the wall.

For example: