Hi Michele comme ça va ?,
Joseph Chafard 1747 deck has same back.
Jean Payen 1743 deck also.
François Bourlion 1768 also
Backs are a good way to date but only an expert as let's say Depaulis could trace all decks (he is expert in TAJAN Paris auctioner and has a long experience).
Yves
Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?
92Sésame, ouvre-toi !!!
-Yves,Yves,Yves...
-Le petit tres diable !
-Ça va bien,et toi ?
-It s seems that you were very,very busy with the images of Romanesque Art in La France that I sent you by e mail,that you never answer to me petit diable...
Which you liked more,the front of the back of the figures of those Abbeys ?
1-Well thanks for your information.
Evidently back cards is not a good way ...
2-Do you know web sites where I can see closest Joseph Chafard and François Bourlion decks ?
-Well here Madmoiselles et Monsieurs a Portrait of Monsieur Yves Les Marseilles eating the amazing "tons" of Romanesque Art in France I sent to him ...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... co_010.jpg
PS . Don t be lazy,just replay 1 e mail mon ami...

-Yves,Yves,Yves...
-Le petit tres diable !
-Ça va bien,et toi ?
-It s seems that you were very,very busy with the images of Romanesque Art in La France that I sent you by e mail,that you never answer to me petit diable...
Which you liked more,the front of the back of the figures of those Abbeys ?
1-Well thanks for your information.
Evidently back cards is not a good way ...
2-Do you know web sites where I can see closest Joseph Chafard and François Bourlion decks ?
-Well here Madmoiselles et Monsieurs a Portrait of Monsieur Yves Les Marseilles eating the amazing "tons" of Romanesque Art in France I sent to him ...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... co_010.jpg
PS . Don t be lazy,just replay 1 e mail mon ami...
Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?
93Dear Michele,
Yes I was rahter busy but not with your Sacred Images that anyway I examinated carefully
I would say that I vote for backs rather than front of this pretty things.
To go back to... backs of cards, I still think that it is possible to date with this information. But it is a long work and it need to compile a lot of various decks from various €uropeen countrys minimum.
Personnaly I started to collect automaticly decks 's backs on a specific file of my computer. Just in case.
I laughed when I saw myself eating like..Hell but my Scorpio side agree with this idea. Miam
About Bourlion and Chafard, I planned to expose them in future but I need to get authorisations, build up web site and so on...
Patience
May be somebody has already some materials ?
Salute
here Canicule season is starting since yesterday : 28 ° Celsius on dark places.
Same ° Celius in my plastic Swimming Pool. Plouf !!! 8-)
Yves
Yes I was rahter busy but not with your Sacred Images that anyway I examinated carefully
I would say that I vote for backs rather than front of this pretty things.
To go back to... backs of cards, I still think that it is possible to date with this information. But it is a long work and it need to compile a lot of various decks from various €uropeen countrys minimum.
Personnaly I started to collect automaticly decks 's backs on a specific file of my computer. Just in case.
I laughed when I saw myself eating like..Hell but my Scorpio side agree with this idea. Miam
About Bourlion and Chafard, I planned to expose them in future but I need to get authorisations, build up web site and so on...
Patience
May be somebody has already some materials ?
Salute
here Canicule season is starting since yesterday : 28 ° Celsius on dark places.
Same ° Celius in my plastic Swimming Pool. Plouf !!! 8-)
Yves
Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?
94Yves :
Here is 3 degrees Celsius...
So I been thinking in see again some of those sacred images I sent to you,specially that one where the body of " Sainte de Miraculeux Queue " (A Saint well known in the zone of Marseille,famous of her miracles when she passed by you ),is literally burning of Sacred Love...

http://godlike.cl/up/im/8/mundombvli.gif
Here is 3 degrees Celsius...
So I been thinking in see again some of those sacred images I sent to you,specially that one where the body of " Sainte de Miraculeux Queue " (A Saint well known in the zone of Marseille,famous of her miracles when she passed by you ),is literally burning of Sacred Love...
http://godlike.cl/up/im/8/mundombvli.gif
Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?
95Mon ami,
I think we are dangerously going out the topic in spite my efforts
So, I have to resist to all your Macho weapons and as I am a French, it is hard not to reply.
I will ask to my Sicilian Colleague Rocco S.....i to put all his arguments "on the table" as to calm your warm intern temperature
Hasta la temperatura augmentatada mucho !!
Best
Yves "canicule" 8-)
I think we are dangerously going out the topic in spite my efforts
So, I have to resist to all your Macho weapons and as I am a French, it is hard not to reply.
I will ask to my Sicilian Colleague Rocco S.....i to put all his arguments "on the table" as to calm your warm intern temperature
Hasta la temperatura augmentatada mucho !!
Best
Yves "canicule" 8-)
Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?
96Caro Amicci Yves...
-Io capisco veramente quello che tu dicendo paesano...
-But here my good comrades I want you all see what happened when Yves went to Corleone Sicily to see his amicci Rocco S.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=l5wwZ3EO8u0
Io sono Michele Cossentino (From Agrigento,Sicily ) capisco ? /Ecoute moi ?
RROOOFFFLLLL !!!!!
-James,I promise is the very last,is my fault not Yves please / Ok ?
I will return to the topic then.Its just a break ...
-Io capisco veramente quello che tu dicendo paesano...
-But here my good comrades I want you all see what happened when Yves went to Corleone Sicily to see his amicci Rocco S.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=l5wwZ3EO8u0
Io sono Michele Cossentino (From Agrigento,Sicily ) capisco ? /Ecoute moi ?
RROOOFFFLLLL !!!!!
-James,I promise is the very last,is my fault not Yves please / Ok ?
I will return to the topic then.Its just a break ...
Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?
97That's really interesting information.Yves Le Marseillais wrote:Hi Michele comme ça va ?,
Joseph Chafard 1747 deck has same back.
Jean Payen 1743 deck also.
François Bourlion 1768 also
Backs are a good way to date but only an expert as let's say Depaulis could trace all decks (he is expert in TAJAN Paris auctioner and has a long experience).
Yves
Chafard and Payen are both Tarot de Marseille I type decks, I don't know about Bourlion.
Is it unusual that Chosson has a back that we see popular in the mid 1700s? Does this add weight to his deck being from the 1700s?
Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?
98Hello Robert,
François Bourlion acted as card maker from 1753 to 1770 in Marseille France. He has a son who followed his way.
BnF web site for exemples of cards.
About Chosson, at this stage, I can't say that this precise back design automaticly connect him to this period: A backs design chronology is missing for the moment.
another job to do again...
Any Tarot fanatik interested for it
Yves
François Bourlion acted as card maker from 1753 to 1770 in Marseille France. He has a son who followed his way.
About Chosson, at this stage, I can't say that this precise back design automaticly connect him to this period: A backs design chronology is missing for the moment.
another job to do again...
Any Tarot fanatik interested for it
Yves
Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?
100Excuse me Robert...
But I must be honest here.
Do you remember when you on a sarcastic way you "push" JMD about the topic about Tarot de Marseille 1/2/3/4/5/ ad eternum ?
-So now you found that is Tarot de Marseille ...
-Please Robert. / You doing classifications ?

But I must be honest here.
Do you remember when you on a sarcastic way you "push" JMD about the topic about Tarot de Marseille 1/2/3/4/5/ ad eternum ?
-So now you found that is Tarot de Marseille ...
-Please Robert. / You doing classifications ?