Re: A plausible etymologie of the word "TAROT"
41I just realize, that the Museum is in Marseilles, but Rouen is quite another location (Northern France)
Re: A plausible etymologie of the word "TAROT"
42What a wonderful forum wich such a lot of great ideas and thoughts 
About the etymology of Tarot
44About the etymology of Tarot
The meaning of the word Tarot in the Renaissance and in modern interpretations
http://www.associazioneletarot.it/About ... 0_eng.aspx
The meaning of the word Tarot in the Renaissance and in modern interpretations
http://www.associazioneletarot.it/About ... 0_eng.aspx
L'Ordine dei Trionfi In mazzi di tarocchi antichi e in docum
45L'Ordine dei Trionfi
In mazzi di tarocchi antichi e in documenti del sec. XVI
http://www.associazioneletarot.it/L%27O ... 1_ita.aspx
In mazzi di tarocchi antichi e in documenti del sec. XVI
http://www.associazioneletarot.it/L%27O ... 1_ita.aspx
Re: A plausible etymologie of the word "TAROT"
46Is it ironic or coincidental that the modern usage for minchiate is the same (and vulgar to boot!)?BOUGEAREL Alain wrote:The etymologie of the word "Tarot" by Andrea VITALI
http://www.letarot.it/Dell%27Etimo-Taro ... 0_ita.aspx
"[...] The word Tarochus meant "moron, idiot," is "equivalent to the italian word tarato or "missing intellect ..."
Re: A plausible etymologie of the word "TAROT"
47I've asked Andrea ...
"If we consider that the term Minchiata should derive from Latin Mentula, penis, to mean a thing with no value, a trifle, a bagatelle or foolishness (in Italian language and in many dialects the “foolishnesses”, as things with no value, among this the game of cards, are said with terms coming from names of the male sexual organ), appears plausible to unit the meaning of “tarot” and that of “minchiata” in the sense of foolishness, a small thing, as we often find expressed by Berni.
The term Minchiate, in Italian language and the same in vulgar, derived from ancient time."
I never heard it in combination with “to boot”.
"If we consider that the term Minchiata should derive from Latin Mentula, penis, to mean a thing with no value, a trifle, a bagatelle or foolishness (in Italian language and in many dialects the “foolishnesses”, as things with no value, among this the game of cards, are said with terms coming from names of the male sexual organ), appears plausible to unit the meaning of “tarot” and that of “minchiata” in the sense of foolishness, a small thing, as we often find expressed by Berni.
The term Minchiate, in Italian language and the same in vulgar, derived from ancient time."
I never heard it in combination with “to boot”.
Re: A plausible etymologie of the word "TAROT"
48It's just an idiomatic expression that means "as well".BOUGEAREL Alain wrote:
I never heard it in combination with “to boot”.
(so Reece is saying "and vulgar as well!"). I don't know how it originated.Re: A plausible etymologie of the word "TAROT"
49Yes "to boot" is just a figure if speech. Sorry if I confused