help identification tarot of marseilles

rosele

help identification tarot of marseilles

1 by rosele

hello, I am a restorer of ancient books, in a binding I found these sheets.Can you help me to identify them? thank you

https://photos.app.goo.gl/LsWAvtWZUtHe8JDt8

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Ross G. R. Caldwell

Re: help identification tarot of marseilles

2 by Ross G. R. Caldwell

Nobody click on this link before Rosele proves themselves not to be a spammer.

Huck

Re: help identification tarot of marseilles

3 by Huck

It are just pictures ... I'm not sure, that this is a Marseille deck ...

Picture 1

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Picture 6

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Ross G. R. Caldwell

Re: help identification tarot of marseilles

4 by Ross G. R. Caldwell

Huck wrote: 23 Apr 2021, 09:26 It are just pictures ... I'm not sure, that this is a Marseille deck ...

Can you post the pictures here?

I don't click on links, even if they seem to be safe in the structure of the link. I don't know what code people can embed.

Ross G. R. Caldwell

Re: help identification tarot of marseilles

5 by Ross G. R. Caldwell

Ah, I see now!

Not Tarot de Marseille at all.

It looks Italian, from the style of the borders. A centaur, perhaps a Minchiate.

Ross G. R. Caldwell

Re: help identification tarot of marseilles

6 by Ross G. R. Caldwell

It greatly resembles the Minchiate of Florence in Kaplan II, 264, which the tax-stamp identifies as between 1781 and 1801.

rosele

Re: help identification tarot of marseilles

7 by rosele

Huck wrote: 23 Apr 2021, 09:26 It are just pictures ... I'm not sure, that this is a Marseille deck ...

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rosele

Re: help identification tarot of marseilles

8 by rosele

Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote: 23 Apr 2021, 09:36 It greatly resembles the Minchiate of Florence in Kaplan II, 264, which the tax-stamp identifies as between 1781 and 1801.

The manuscript was written from 1750 onwards, but the book was certainly bound before the beginning of the 1700s. I think it may be French or Ligurian Piedmontese the register is from this area of Italy

Huck

Re: help identification tarot of marseilles

9 by Huck

One can identify the elephant at the 4 of coins. This type of small animals was used already in 17th century, I think.
There is a half name at the Ace of coins and this not at the Kaplan deck. ....PERI...

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Ross G. R. Caldwell

Re: help identification tarot of marseilles

10 by Ross G. R. Caldwell

rosele wrote: 23 Apr 2021, 09:46
Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote: 23 Apr 2021, 09:36 It greatly resembles the Minchiate of Florence in Kaplan II, 264, which the tax-stamp identifies as between 1781 and 1801.
The manuscript was written from 1750 onwards, but the book was certainly bound before the beginning of the 1700s. I think it may be French or Ligurian Piedmontese the register is from this area of Italy

Thank you for responding, Rosele! Welcome to the forum.

I apologize for my suspicion about your link, but I have to deal with many spammers every day, whose links are not safe.

Yes, your sheets are clearly Minchiate, and they could be earlier than 1700. I am not an expert, I think we have more knowlegable people here.
The cards I mentioned in Kaplan are not the same engraving, but the style is the same. The pattern in Florence stayed the same for a long time.

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