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SteveM wrote: 21 Dec 2020, 19:57

Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote: 08 Aug 2010, 11:08 Thanks Steve. Very nice.

I'd like to find the Baldini/Finiguerra for Luna, which contains a juggler image described thusly:

"Near these, eight persons at a table are looking at a juggler, in a fool's dress, with an ape at his feet."

I know this is old, but in case you did not come across it, there is a [zoomable] print at the BM:

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collectio ... 5-0825-476

Thanks very much, Steve!
What I like about it is the conjurer with the fool's costume, which resembles the Rosenwald sheet. This should put to rest the notion that the Rosenwald deck lacked a Fool, just because the Bagatto is wearing fool's ears. Maybe the Rosenwald Fool looked like this "Ship of Fools" character, or maybe he was more of a madman, dressed in rags, or some other kind of Fool.

Huck,
Have you ever managed to translate the text below the image? Usually there are just bad b/w images floating around of this one, but got a good shot of this one off BnF.

I can't even make out the spelling of some of the words, but something about when the 7 planets are gathered together and then to Saint Michael and with all the angels...I presume the theme to be some kind of Christian prayer/talisman against astral influences (Christian virtue over fortuna), but clearly clueless here text-wise:


Appreciate any help here.

Phaeded

viewtopic.php?p=15576#p15576 and likely also at other places

original https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b ... /f395.item

F. 175v-197v. JOHANNES HARTLIEB, Mondwahrsagebuch : « Hjenoch volgent die acht und zwentzig mansyones lune…–…Aber den weltlichen monschen also vil gelobter ee etc. [D]is bůch hant gemacht die grossen Meister der astronomÿe und hand es transferiert uß caldeischer sprachen in dütsche sproch uß dem bůch der heilligen drÿ kunig. [D]ie es im anfang vor gottes geburt an dem gestirn gesehen habent und ist ein kostbarlicher schatz der natur mit wenig worten volendet ».

quoted from https://archivesetmanuscrits.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cc256019

author ...
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Hartlieb
various editions of the same work ... https://handschriftencensus.de/werke/3412
for instance here https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/digli ... image,info .... difficult to read.