Tarot History Forum

I can see Mr. Ross on line just now.

*So tell me if you like Ross: If the figure holding a lantern or an hourglass ?

I think a lantern.

Thanks Mr. Ross...

* So if this deck is a Ferrara pattern,and the the Tarot de Marseille is supposed Milanese pattern...

-So I will fill my pipe waiting your sapiencia...

Cheers

I'm not sure what your point might be about the lantern. The French had it early - the earliest surviving French Tarot, Catelin Geoffrey (Lyon, 1557), shows it.

Some people decided to see a hermit or monk in the image, instead of an allegory of Time. Wanderers like friars need a lantern if they are a little late to their resting place for the night. I guess cognates could be found in other kinds of art (but I have none to show you at the moment, never having thought to look).

So, is the point that yet another piece of the "Tarot de Marseille iconography" has Italian roots?

Thanks Ross.

The point is as follows.

1+-Catelin has it. / TdP also.
2-Visconti has not
3-Tarot de Marseille has it

* So how consider a Milanese pattern instead here of a Ferrarese ?

I would wonder about a connection to the Vieville?

Your dart matched the bull s eye Robert...

* Have a Bass ???

Maybe say this is imprudent, but in the case of Vieville, it could not be a bell?
(I do not know the translation adapted for ¨cencerro¨, cowbell?)

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