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Possible Bianca Sforza portrait by Da Vinci.

Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 23:53
by Robert
"A fingerprint could prove a portrait of a girl may have been painted by Leonardo da Vinci."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/ ... 5786505125

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Re: Possible Bianca Sforza portrait by Da Vinci.

Posted: 14 Oct 2009, 08:00
by Ross G. R. Caldwell
Thanks Robert!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bianca_Maria_Sforza

It does look like her, at least when she was younger. I could see this as tempting Maximilian.

lucky Silverman. last owner is probably crying.

We all dream of such a find. My first impression was "too modern" as well, but the late 15th century often surprises.

Ross

Re: Possible Bianca Sforza portrait by Da Vinci.

Posted: 14 Oct 2009, 23:34
by Huck
Ross,
I think, it's not Bianca Maria (Empress), about which was spoken in the report, but Bianca Sforza, illegitime daughter of Ludovico Sforza, which married the tournament hero and later disappointing Milanese general Galeazzo Sanseverino 1496 and died 1497 (15 years old) short before Beatrice d'Este (wife of Ludovico) died. There exists another (better known) female portrait from the Milanese court with similarities to the person of this new picture (about the other it is also speculated, that it presents this illegitime daughter Bianca).

Re: Possible Bianca Sforza portrait by Da Vinci.

Posted: 14 Oct 2009, 23:46
by Lorredan
Hi Huck- Robert's original link said that...
Mr Kemp speculated that the profile of the young girl whose hair hangs in a long single braid could be the portrait of Bianca Sforza, daughter of the Ludivico Sforza, the 15th-century Duke of Milan.
~Lorredan

Re: Possible Bianca Sforza portrait by Da Vinci.

Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 04:22
by Huck
Lorredan wrote:Hi Huck- Robert's original link said that...
Mr Kemp speculated that the profile of the young girl whose hair hangs in a long single braid could be the portrait of Bianca Sforza, daughter of the Ludivico Sforza, the 15th-century Duke of Milan.
~Lorredan
Yes, the report also says so, but many pages present errors ... Ross perhaps perceived the wrong written Lidivico Sforza as an error and ignored it, relating it to Bianca Maria (the Empress, daughter of Galeazzo Maria Sforza). Atually I also perceived it first as an error.

Re: Possible Bianca Sforza portrait by Da Vinci.

Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 11:57
by Huck
http://www.kleio.org/en/history/famtree ... ffio4.html

Kleio.org, which often has "strange opinions", offers an alternative view on the picture.

Re: Possible Bianca Sforza portrait by Da Vinci.

Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 12:50
by Ross G. R. Caldwell
Huck wrote:http://www.kleio.org/en/history/famtree ... ffio4.html

Kleio.org, which often has "strange opinions", offers an alternative view on the picture.
Thanks for that Huck.

Angela Borgia Lanzol. Interesting theory - the colors, simplicity of the clothing, lack of jewellry etc. are odd, if for a noblewoman.

Re: Possible Bianca Sforza portrait by Da Vinci.

Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 14:06
by Lorredan
That was an interesting link Huck. I am not sure if the premise about the Jewelery etc is indicative of status. The Lady with the Ermine is supposed to be Lodvico Sforza's mistress neither Noble or famous and she has a jet necklace.(an expensive piece).
The Mona Lisa ( by Da Vinci)is in dark browns and dour colour and has no jewelery or adornment and he even chose not to depict Lisa del Giocondo wedding ring.The study for Isabella d'Este is Jewelery free and in dark colours. It seems that most of his paintings have a minimum of adornments and little rich colour, regardless of the ladies status.

I wondered if it might be Beatrice D'Este actually.
~Lorredan

Re: Possible Bianca Sforza portrait by Da Vinci.

Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 14:08
by Huck


Given to Ambrogio de Predis and to ca. 1490 ... with insecurities, I guess ... "unknown person", occasionally ascribed to somebody, I remember "Bianca Sforza"

I see similarities in the facial expression of both pictures, but the nose is different, obviously

Re: Possible Bianca Sforza portrait by Da Vinci.

Posted: 15 Oct 2009, 14:33
by Lorredan
Ahhh Thank you Huck- that is the portrait of Beatrice d'Este at her wedding to Lodvico Sforza. Yes the nose is quite different. These women were painted older I think- or they were older in manner at least- Beatrice was only 15 when she married Sforza. So maybe the painting in question is Bianca.

~Lorredan