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Re: Boiardo Tarocchi poem (trionfi)

Posted: 25 Jun 2025, 18:05
by SteveM
Magic Moon wrote: 25 Jun 2025, 17:04 Steve

Thanks for the explanation. What you say is interesting: Boiardo's four passions were previously in Petrarch's poem Trionfi. I've looked for those four passions in Petrarch's poem, but I don't see the structure you're talking about. I only see the word "love" used many times and the word "hope" used a few times. What do you mean?

Solerti says that the last verse of each chapter didn't exist in the manuscript. I assume Boiardo's manuscript is no longer preserved. I assume Solerti is referring to Viti's manuscript. Right? In that case, it seems difficult to determine whether Boiardo wrote that last verse or not.

I was also missing the danger tercet in the text I downloaded years ago. Glad you found it complete! I assume Boiardo wrote the danger tercet before Viti. Huck mentions an introduction that mentions the year 1479, but I see that this introduction is not the introduction to Boiardo's poem. Huck is probably referring to another text.

Re: Boiardo Tarocchi poem (trionfi)

Posted: 25 Jun 2025, 18:25
by SteveM
SteveM wrote: 25 Jun 2025, 18:05
Magic Moon wrote: 25 Jun 2025, 17:04 Steve

Thanks for the explanation. What you say is interesting: Boiardo's four passions were previously in Petrarch's poem Trionfi. I've looked for those four passions in Petrarch's poem, but I don't see the structure you're talking about. I only see the word "love" used many times and the word "hope" used a few times. What do you mean?
Not in hisTrionfi poems trionfi, but in other of his works such as :

"Reason contends with the Four Passions, offspring of Fortune's emissaries, Prosperity and Adversity -- These two sisters gave birth to two sets of twins: Prosperity's passional offspring are Joy (Gaudium) and Hope or Desire (Spes sive Cupiditas); and Adversity's offspring are Sorrow (Dolor) and Fear (Metus) -- Where Joy and Sorrow are concerned with the past and the present - Hope or Desire and Fear are concerned with the future; both sets of passions afflict the mind as diseases of the body --"

Remedies for Fortune Fair and Foul: by Francesco Petrarca
Solerti says that the last verse of each chapter didn't exist in the manuscript. I assume Boiardo's manuscript is no longer preserved. I assume Solerti is referring to Viti's manuscript. Right? In that case, it seems difficult to determine whether Boiardo wrote that last verse or not.
The last line, not the last verse (that is the last tercet of each chapter becomes a quatrain) - it is a puzzle, as MikeH has mentioned, as to which manuscripts the print editions were based upon, and so determine as to whether which is the more accurate to the original. However, the quatrains would be at odds with the sonnet on the game, which mentions only tercets. Rainier, who I have linked to above, is highly critical in general of the quality of the print editions of Boiardo's other works by the same printer (Zopino).

Wheel with four passions of the soul, twins born of Fortune's emissaries:

Re: Boiardo Tarocchi poem (trionfi)

Posted: 25 Jun 2025, 19:25
by Magic Moon
Hi Steve. Thanks for the reflections and for Petrarch's text. It's a very interesting background and also relates to the wheel of fortune. Was that illustration in Petrarch's book on good and bad fortune?

In Spanish, a verse is a line of text. In what text, edition, or manuscript do you say there are triplets and no quatrains?

Thanks!

PS: It seems that Hieronimo Beniueni was the one who initiated the publication of this book in 1523 in Venice, and Zoppino was the printer or ilustrator. Very good information! I don't see the title "card game" in that edition. It probably was later. In 1894 we have Tarocchi in the title, not "card game". It say ilustrated by Viti but not images in the book, not pictures card. Then the italian "ilustrate" or "ilustrazione" seems confusing to understand what is the meaning, it is, what did Zoppino in 1523 and Viti in 1894 edition (somebody wrote 1893?). Renier study was poblished the same year 1894.

Re: Boiardo Tarocchi poem (trionfi)

Posted: 25 Jun 2025, 22:39
by SteveM
Magic Moon wrote: 25 Jun 2025, 19:25 Hi Steve. Thanks for the reflections and for Petrarch's text. It's a very interesting background and also relates to the wheel of fortune. Was that illustration in Petrarch's book on good and bad fortune?
The illustration is from an old post of mine in this forum - but the link no works - so I cannot get to the source of it. While his remedies against good and bad fortune is where Petrach's application of Reason v. Passions is most widely dealt with, references to it may be found in other of his works too. For example, in this passage from Petrarch’s Secretum (Book I), in which Augustine and Francesco (Petrarch’s persona) discuss the passions of the soul and their relation to Fortune, time, and divine origin:

AUGUSTINUS:
Do you know what hinders your thinking?

FRANCISCUS:
That is what I ask for; that is what I so deeply long to know.

AUGUSTINUS:
Listen, then. I will not deny that your soul was nobly formed from above — but do not doubt that, through its contact with this body by which it is enclosed, it has greatly degenerated from its original nobility. And not only has it degenerated, but over a long span of time it has grown dull, as if it had forgotten its origin and its divine Creator.

The passions that arise from this mingling with the body — and the soul’s forgetfulness of its higher nature — were, it seems, divinely expressed by Virgil when he said:

They have a fiery vigor and a heavenly origin,
as much as harmful bodies do not impede them,
and earthly limbs do not dull them, and their dying members.
From this come their fears and desires, their sorrows and joys;
they do not look to the heavens, shut up in darkness and in a blind prison.

Do you discern in these poetic words that four-headed monster so hostile to human nature?

FRANCISCUS:
I see with perfect clarity the fourfold division of the soul’s passion: first split by the orientation to the present or future, then each of these further divided by the soul’s perception of good or evil. Thus, by four opposing winds, the calm of the human mind is scattered and lost.

Petrarch here — via Augustine and Virgil — maps out the Stoic model of the passions. The four are:

Metus – fear (future evil)

Cupiditas – desire (future good)

Dolor – sorrow (present evil)

Gaudium – joy (present good)

These correspond to temporal judgments: we suffer not because of the present or future in themselves, but because of our evaluations of them.

The Virgilian quote from the Aeneid (VI.730–734) is used to describe the divine origin of the soul and its imprisonment in flesh, which dulls its divine faculties. Petrarch follows this Neoplatonic reading: the soul forgets its origin and, instead of contemplating eternity, becomes ensnared in transient emotion. This enslavement to passion makes us vulnerable to Fortune, whose essence is change and instability — the antithesis of divine order or reason. Thus, fortune rules those not governed by reason.

Francesco’s breaks this down first, by time:

Present (→ joy/sorrow)

Future (→ desire/fear)

Then by value judgment:

Good (→ desire/joy)

Evil (→ fear/sorrow)

Of Petrarch's remedies, Michael Hurst once wrote:
Michael Hurst wrote: The historical precursors are Boccaccio's Casibus and Petrarch's Remediis. Virtually every story in The Examples of Famous Men is an example of a great man's rise, his reversal (a so-called "tragedy of Fortune" or "medieval tragedy"), downfall and death. It was one of the most popular works in late 14th-century Italy and continued in popularity, in various translations and imitations, for centuries. In the Tarot de Marseille/Milanese ordering, each turn of Fortune's Wheel is capped with one of the three Moral Virtues. This is the theme of Petrarch's Remedies for Good and Bad Fortune. While Boccaccio wrote an encyclopedia of moralized biographies illustrating Fortune's Wheel, Petrarch wrote an encyclopedia of circumstance, good and bad, and the way in which the four Passions of the Soul were mitigated by virtue. These two Latin moral works were the main reasons for the fame and respect of Petrarch and Boccaccio at the time Tarot was invented.

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magic moon wrote:
In Spanish, a verse is a line of text. In what text, edition, or manuscript do you say there are triplets and no quatrains?
From recollection Solerto says the final line in each chapter is not in viti manuscript but is in [all?] the printed editions.
PS: It seems that Hieronimo Beniueni was the one who initiated the publication of this book in 1523 in Venice, and Zoppino was the printer or ilustrator.

Giralomo Benivieni, a friend of Pico and Ficino (in 1487 he published verses based upon Ficino's translation of Plato's Symposium, with a commentary by Pico). *
Benivieni was an adherent of Savanarola, and also “...revived Jacopone’s doctrine that madness for Christ’s sake is true wisdom, and wrote the Bonfire songs that Savanarola’s adherents sang in their procession.” Here is one of those Bonfire songs (which Alain has previously made reference to in the "Le Tarot arithmologique" thread) :

Non fu mai el piu bel solazzo,
Never was there more beautiful solace,

Piu giocondo ne maggiore,
more joyful or greater,

Che per zelo, e per amore
than through zeal, and through love

Di Jesu, diventar pazzo.
of Jesus, to become crazy.
...
Ognum gridi com’ io grido,
everyone shout as I shout,

Sempre pazzo, pazzo, pazzo.”
always crazy, crazy, crazy.

As an adherent of Savonarola, he was also an active participant in the bonfires of the vanities of 1497, so it seems strange that of Boiado's poems he chose to include one about a card game!? One to while away the time, in this vain world... but perhaps the subject of the four passions, the world as something adored by fools, the remedial power of virtue is the subject of interest for Benivieni, that elevates it. Here is part of another poem of his, I don't have its title, but let's call it:

The Remedy

Io co darti anima mia
I intend to give you, my soul,

un rimedio sol che vale
a single remedy that truly works

quanto ogni altro a ciascun male
more than all others for every ill

che si chiama la pazzia.
which is called madness.

To tre oncs al meno di speme,
Take at least three ounces at least of hope,

tre di fede e sei di amore,
three of faith and six of love,

due di pianto e poni insieme
two of tears, and mix all together

tutto al fuoco del timore.
then set it all on the fire of fear.

Fa da poi bollir tre hore
Then let it boil for three hours

premi enfine vi agiugni tanto
Then strain it, and at the end add

di humilita e dolor, quanto
of much humility and sorrow as

basta a far questa pazzia.
is enough to make this madness.

I shall give you, my soul,
a single remedy that truly works,
more than all others for every ill —
which is called madness.

Take at least three ounces of hope,
three of faith, and six of love,
two of tears, and mix them all together,
then set it all on the fire of fear.

Then let it boil for three full hours,
strain it, and at the end add
as much humility and sorrow
as is enough to make this madness.


Bonfire Songs: Savonarola's Musical Legacy, Volume 1 by Patrick Paul Macey

* Quote

"But, from the standpoint of literature, the most interesting production of the school of Marsilio Ficino is the little book of Pico and Benivieni. It was in 1479, when Marsilio had completed his Plato and was about to apply himself to the interpretation of Plotinus, that Giovanni Pico della Mirandola, then seventeen years old, came to Florence. At a social gathering, held perhaps in the Medicean palace, he fell into discussion with a Florentine citizen, ten years older than himself, Girolamo di Paolo Benivieni, and formed with him one of the most famous friendships in the annals of literature."
End quote
From the introduction to "PLATONICK DISCOURSE UPON LOVE" by PICO DELLA MIRANDOLA, Edited by EDMUND G. GARDNER, 1914.

Online here: https://archive.org/details/platonickdi ... 1/mode/2up
Magic Moon wrote: 25 Jun 2025, 19:25
PS: It seems that Hieronimo Beniueni was the one who initiated the publication of this book in 1523 in Venice, and Zoppino was the printer or ilustrator. Very good information! I don't see the title "card game" in that edition.
It appears in the 'title' (or introduction) to the penultimate sonnet (the prologue Sonnet in Viti).

Argumento de li ditti capituli de Mattheo Maria Boiardo sopra un nouo gioco de carte.

Argument of the said chapters of Matthew Maria Boiardo on a new card game.

IF there are additions or other poetic amendments to Boiardo's original manuscript, then I would suspect Benivieni made them rather than the printer. However, it may also be possible, if Boairdo had several manuscript copies made, that he made additions and amendments himself between the production of copies. Fortunately, apart from the extra line at the end of each chapter, and a a line and a word in the Sonnet which Viti says he re-wrote, the differences seem othographic / dialectical in the main.

Re: Boiardo Tarocchi poem (trionfi)

Posted: 26 Jun 2025, 19:55
by Magic Moon
Thanks, Steve, for all the explanation and the literary citations about the four passions. It's very interesting, and it shows the philosophical logic of this matter before Boiardo. Your comments are very useful.

I forgot to mention one detail. I think some editors used to add the last line (verse) added to each chapter separately. That is, I saw a website where the last tercet was written, and then there was a single verse that was separated as if it were a final stanza of a single line or phrase. I don't know if this way of presenting is old or the four lines werer together. Here the last line is separated:
http://trahorfatis.pbworks.com/w/page/2 ... fthChapter

On the other hand, Solerti says that this added verse didn't exist in the original manuscript. I was unsure which manuscript he was referring to because I don't know if Solerti could have seen Boiardo's original manuscript, and I know that Solerti had Viti's manuscript in his hands. I don't know if Boiardo's original manuscript is preserved because I haven't read anything about where it is preserved. I imagine it's not preserved, but I don't know if Solerti was able to consult it. If Boiardo's original manuscript was lost early, then Solerti is imagining that the verse added to each chapter didn't exist in Boiardo's original text. I think Viti copied Boiardo's text, but I'm not sure. That is, perhaps Boiardo's poem is in Viti's text, and that shows that there was not a quatrain but a tercet. Perhaps Solerti's assumption was based on Viti's text, who was only interested in the structure of the tercets because he wanted to write three verses (not four) in each letter.

The 1523 book is dedicated to Nicolo da Corregio. The poet Nicolo II da Corregio (1450-1508) had already died years before this 1523 publication. Do we know which Nicolo da Corregio is mentioned in the 1523 book?

Re: Boiardo Tarocchi poem (trionfi)

Posted: 26 Jun 2025, 21:39
by SteveM
Magic Moon wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 19:55
I forgot to mention one detail. I think some editors used to add the last line (verse) added to each chapter separately. That is, I saw a website where the last tercet was written, and then there was a single verse that was separated as if it were a final stanza of a single line or phrase.
Yes, I’ve also seen this final verse presented on a separate line, but metrically and rhythmically it belongs to the rhyme scheme of the tercet.
On the other hand, Solerti says that this added verse didn't exist in the original manuscript. I was unsure which manuscript he was referring to because I don't know if Solerti could have seen Boiardo's original manuscript, and I know that Solerti had Viti's manuscript in his hands. I don't know if Boiardo's original manuscript is preserved because I haven't read anything about where it is preserved. I imagine it's not preserved, but I don't know if Solerti was able to consult it. If Boiardo's original manuscript was lost early, then Solerti is imagining that the verse added to each chapter didn't exist in Boiardo's original text.
That seems correct, Viti is the only extant manuscript I am aware of.
The 1523 book is dedicated to Nicolo da Corregio. The poet Nicolo II da Corregio (1450-1508) had already died years before this 1523 publication. Do we know which Nicolo da Corregio is mentioned in the 1523 book?
Benivieni’s Canzoni e sonetti dell'amore e della bellezza divina, con commento (published 1500) has a dedication to Niccolò II, and also to Giovanni Francesco Pico, the nephew of Pico della Mirandola (though he is sometimes mistakenly described as his uncle).

Interestingly, not only were Boiardo and Niccolò II contemporaries and great friends at the Este court under Ercole I, but they were also distant cousins via Matteo’s grandmother's side, Guiduccia da Correggio. Both Matteo & Niccolo accompanied the Duke of Ferrara on a visit to Venice in 1485.

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-239059

Re: Boiardo Tarocchi poem (trionfi)

Posted: 26 Jun 2025, 22:40
by Magic Moon
Thanks Steve

About the dedication to Correggio, I understand what you're suggesting. It seemed strange to me that the book in 1523 was dedicated to the poet Nicolo II Correggio, who had died years earlier. I didn't understand at the time and thought it referred to a descendant of the same name. It could also be a dedication to the memory of someone who had died.

"Amore, by Hieronimo Beniueni, Florentine, dedicated to the most illustrious Lord Niccolò da Correggio"

However, that dedication had surely been written by Boiardo in his manuscript, when Correggio was still alive. Benivieni is mentioned in the same sentence in the title. That made me think the dedication was Benivieni's initiative in 1523. But the other option seems logical.

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I discovered something: Solerti's book and Renier's article are from the same year, 1894, because it was the 400th anniversary of Boiardo's death. And curiously, both were published in Bologna the same year.

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I'm thinking that maybe I've confused the word "illustre" with "illustrate" but I suppose Zoppino is mentioned as an illustrator in the sense of a printer.

We see something similar in the image from "Poesie volgari e latine" by Solerti. But here the word is "illustrazione" as if Viti were painter...

Re: Boiardo Tarocchi poem (trionfi)

Posted: 26 Jun 2025, 22:45
by SteveM
Magic Moon wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 22:40 Thanks Steve

About the dedication to Correggio, I understand what you're suggesting. It seemed strange to me that the book in 1523 was dedicated to the poet Nicolo II Correggio, who had died years earlier. I didn't understand at the time and thought it referred to a descendant of the same name. It could also be a dedication to the memory of someone who had died.

"Amore, by Hieronimo Beniueni, Florentine, dedicated to the most illustrious Lord Niccolò da Correggio"

However, that dedication had surely been written by Boiardo in his manuscript, when Correggio was still alive. Benivieni is mentioned in the same sentence in the title. That made me think the dedication was Benivieni's initiative in 1523. But the other option seems logical.

Thank you!
Benvieni's poem 'Amore', with his dedication to Correggio, had previously been published in 1500, when Niccolo was still alive. It is republished, together with Matteo's poem, in 1523.

Niccolo was also a 'beloved poet' of the court : here for example is part a poem he wrote of an unrequited love (symbolised by a rose) at the court (garden):

Lord, in your garden, as the spring drew near,
I saw a rose, alone in bloom, arise—
Defying frost, defying burning skies—
So bold she stood, unveiled, with nothing to fear.

So soft, so fresh, so flushed and yet so clear,
White petals blushed with color as she lies
Above the thorn and leaf, a queen who flies
No banner but her beauty, proud and sheer.

No hand of Nature ever shaped a flower
More fair than this. Yours be the stem and bloom—
But leave to me the scent, that fleeting power...

The gate stands wide; the garden grants me room,
And still I see her wake at morning's hour.
O joyful day!—but why, with golden grace,
Does she now turn to me, as sun to face?

Now well I know, by love’s exacting art,
That grief is vain—until love’s destined part.
But if she stays, and lets me breathe her name,
Then surely death shall hold no further claim.
Magic Moon wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 22:40
I'm thinking that maybe I've confused the word "illustre" with "illustrate" but I suppose Zoppino is mentioned as an illustrator in the sense of a printer.

We see something similar in the image from "Poesie volgari e latine" by Solerti. But here the word is "illustrazione" as if Viti were painter...
Depends upon context:

"Allo Illustre S. Conte Nicola" "To the illustrious Count Niccolò"
"con la illustrazione di Pier Antonia Viti da Urbino" "With the commentary / explanation by Pier Antonio Viti of Urbino."
"illustrate per Niccolò Zopino" "Published by Niccolò Zopino,"

Re: Boiardo Tarocchi poem (trionfi)

Posted: 27 Jun 2025, 09:28
by SteveM
Here are the first lines of each chapter, with second word bolded, from both Printed and Viti versions:

Amor - Print

Amore, un che con te cerchi bon stato

Amor, dubbio non è che gellosia

Amor, termine e 'l fin de toi guadagni

Amor, questo desio stringe sí forte

Amor ce insegna non haver timore

Amor, se qualche volta ha un cor ferito

Amor sette anni andar, quale animale.

Amore ottenne che a guardare el greggie

Amor nove arte trova, e sotto il mele

Amor de ciascun servo el desio tenta,

AMOR - VITI

Amor, un che cum te cerchi bon stato,

Amor, dubio non è che gelosia

Amor, termine e fin de toi guadagni

Amor, questo disio stringe sí forte

Amor ce insegna non aver timore

Amor, se qualche volta ha un cor ferito,

Amor, septe anni andar, come animale,

Amore otenne, che a guardar la grege

Amor nov'arte trova; e sotto el mele

Amor de ciascun servo il disío tenta;

SPERANZA - PRINT

Speranza unita tien col corpo un'alma

Speranza dubbio alcun non ha smarrita,

Speranza terminata in un confine.

Speranza quanto più con ragion vene,

Speranza ci mantene in giochi e 'n feste,

Speranza amica sei pur di natura!

Speranza se tu se' anchor pertinace

Speranza ottener fa che altri non doni

Speranza non consente un preso in gabbia

Speranza desta il pover che lavora

SPERANZA - VITI

Speranza unita tien co 'l corpo un'alma

Speranza dubio alcun non ha smarrita,

Speranza terminata in un confine,

Speranza quanto piú con rason vene,

Speranza ce mantiene in giochi e in feste

Speranza, sei pure amica a natura!

Speranza, se tu se' ancor contumace

Speranza obtener fa senz'altri doni

Speranza non consente un, preso in gabbia,

Speranza desta il pover che lavora,

GELOSIA - PRINT

Gellosia un vero amor non pò smarrire,

Gellosia è dura cosa ove esser vede

Gellosia mesto rende un lieto core,


Gellosia, quando ven, non si propona

Gellosia ciascun cercha, e poi ciascuno

Gellosia sempre non debbia volere

Gellosia, si te gionge a veder presso

Gellosia dove ponsi è gran male,

Gellosia non vien mancho fra li Dei

Gellosia di certezza mai non pone

GELOSIS - VITI

Gelosía un vero amor non pò smarrire,

Gelosía è dura cosa, ove esser vede

Gelosía tristo rende un lieto core,

Gelosía quando vien, non si propona

Gelosía ciascun cerca, e poi ciascuno

Gelosía sempre non debbe volere

Gelosía se te gionge a veder presso

Gelosía ove si pone è sí gran male,

Gelosía non vien manco fra li Dei,

Gelosía di certezza mai non pone

TIMOR - PRINT

Timor un'alma tien tanto dubbiosa,

Timor, si v'è qualche pericol, vieta

Timor tremar fa l'agnel nell'ovile

Timor quattro destrier d'un carro al uso

Timor ci tien tal'hor, che i nostri effetti

Timor fa sempre che un non se diffende,

Timor, si tu ti acosti a armati in giostra

Timor conturba i sensi, e faccia smorta

Timor non ha sol di quel ch'è presente

Timor certo è da immaginarlo vano,

TIMOR - VITI

Timor un'alma tien tanto dubiosa

Timor, dov'è qualche pericol, vieta

Timor tremar fa l'agnel ne l'ovile

Timor quattro destrier d'un carro a l'uso

Timor ci tien talor, che i nostri effetti

Timor fa sempre che un non si difende,

Timor, se tu ti accosti a armati in giostra

Timor obturba i sensi, e faccia smorta

Timor non ha sol, di quel ch'è presente,

Timor de certo è a imaginarlo vano

I have highlighted any line that breaks the numerical acrostic.

For AMOR, both print and Viti version maintain the acrostic 10/10
For SPERANZA, print version maintains the acrostic 9/10; Viti 10/10
For GELOSIA, print = 7/10; Viti = 9/10
(note though that e is a grammatical neccesity in the second stanza and followed in both version by dura which would maintain the acrostic for that line?)
For TIMOR, print = 7/10; Viti = 9/10

So, for maintaining the Acrostic:
PRINT = 33/40
VITI = 38/40

Re: Boiardo Tarocchi poem (trionfi)

Posted: 27 Jun 2025, 17:08
by Magic Moon
Very good analysis. I had a feeling something was happening, but I'd never seen the numbering of the nuggets in that poem so clearly.

The two times the acrostic is broken in Viti (2 "jealousy," 6 "fear"), we have the number on the third word instead of the second. This seems to suggest that Viti's manuscript was faithful to Boiardo's text, while the printed editions (from 1523 onward) had modifications made by Boiardo before his death or probably by the editor. Another option is that Viti modified the text to perfect the acrostic, but that seems less logical. So, perhaps Solerti is right when he thinks that Boiardo's text didn't have any quatrains, that is, possibly the added verse (at the end of each chapter) was a late contribution by Boiardo, or rather, by the editor in 1523. Well, I'm just guessing.


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I tried to use Google Lens to detect the image of the wheel that Steve posted in this thread. I wanted to find the source or date of the drawing. My device doesn't work well, and I couldn't find the forum image on Google to do it from there. Perhaps a friend will help me. The only thing missing is the sign of pain, which was perhaps noted outside the image, in the margin of the paper. Or perhaps it was omitted out of superstition. I don't know. The card in the Visconti Bembo deck has four figures, but one is at the bottom instead of on the left. The card seems to represent ages of life, while Steve's image shows the four passions. Both wheels have chronological symbolism (past, present, future), but the themes are not identical. It would be good to know if Steve's image is a drawing older than 1440 (trump cards) or if it dates back to later. In any case, it's an interesting subject.

Boiardo was directly inspired by Petrarch. It wasn't much inspired by the deck of trumps.

We think Boiardo wrote the poem when the conventional Tarot deck of 22 allegories already existed. I sometimes think that perhaps the exact structure of the Tarot didn't yet exist when Boiardo wrote that poem. Perhaps Sola Busca was inspired by Boiardo's structure, and then the structure of the Tarot emerged. Okay, I know. You say that Steele's sermon and Boiardo's poem even predate 1470, but there's a very broad doubt about the chronology of both texts.

In favor of the Tarot existing before the poem, I think that possibly the poem didn't have much influence, although perhaps the number 22 was gaining symbolic importance among the scholars of the time, and the poem reflects that. I have a better argument. It seems logical that the poem is an act of imagining a deck with nonexistent cards based on an existing deck structure. That's clear in the suits. Boiardo speaks of passions but doesn't mention common suits. Possibly the same thing happened with the trumps. Boiardo speaks of myths that didn't exist in a physical deck of cards, but he was possibly based on the numerical structure of a common tarot deck that already existed.

Perhaps it's a poem written around 1491, based on the Sola Busca deck. But it seems you have reasons to think it's a poem even prior to 1487. That is, we don't know if the 22-card tarot structure existed from approximately 1470 to 1490. We have a mystery that's been going on for more than 20 years.

It's a shame that Boiardo didn't make a dedication or say anything that would guide us as to the time in his life when he wrote the poem, either because of the context of his social relationships or in relation to his other texts.

While there are doubts, I don't find the 1487 wedding theory to be unacceptable, but I still don't know the arguments for an earlier dating. On the other hand, as I said in another thread, I'm confused by Huck's opinion. He seems to be in favor of the Tarot existing with 22 allegories when Boiardo wrote the poem, but his analysis of the number 22 in Boiardo and Pico leads me to think that Huck is arguing that the structure of the Tarot didn't yet exist and that it was Pico and Boiardo who promoted the consolidation of the 22-allegory structure, that it possibly had two more cards than the Minchiate of 1466 and the Visconti Sforza Tarot, which was completed around the same time or a few years later. What is your point or opinion Huck about that? Did the 22-allegory Tarot exist before Boiardo's poem? Perhaps Huck think that Pico promoted the structure of the Tarot before Boiardo wrote his poem? Does that mean the Tarot already had 22 allegories a few years before the wedding in 1487? 1484 perhaps? I think the Devil was added in Bologna at that time, but perhaps in Milan and Venice they replaced the Devil with the Falconer. The Sola Busca deck was perhaps created in Venice, and a copy made it to Milan.

Sorry for raising questions again. The solution may come from any details we haven't yet observed or by combining several observations. You've done a good analysis of the poem!

PD: I have a new translation app. I hope it's good.