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If you give the following to the search engine ...

"Cartes à jouer et Tarots Millon-05112011-bd.pdf"

... you should find between the search results a nice link titled "Cartes à jouer et Tarots"
This will deliver a nice playing card catalog as pdf with much interesting information ... and pictures.

This is about the collection of Claude Guiard, who once had been president of the IPCS (1989-91)
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Andrea Vitali wrote:

Tarocchi e Inquisitori
Nella Serenissima e nel Trentino, fra "Strighe" e "Preti Diabolici"
http://www.letarot.it/page.aspx?id=323&lng=ITA

Only in Italian for the moment.

Andrea noted:
Tarot and Inquisitors
In Venice and in Trentino, between witches and evil priests
There were many more documents on women who used the devil card in magical rituals, in addition to what it has been spoken. In this article are also priests accused by the Inquisition to play for money at Tarot cards, etc.

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I found in ...

Die Bibliothek als Museum
Franz Georg Kaltwasser
Otto Harrassowitz Verlag, 1999 - 490 Seiten

... a discription of the Fickler'sche Verzeichnis 1598/99 (made by the Jurist Johann Baptist Fickler, 1533-1610), which was made of a "Kunstkammer" in the possession of Maximilian I, duke of Bavaria. The destiny of this collection is unknown (possibly lost in the 30 years war ?).
The modern report notes three playing card objects:
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The first object is from the description similar to the Ambasser game with dogs, stags, cranes and "Spärber" (a sort of hawk). It is called from his style "old-fränkisch" and with "vergultem" (likely "golden") background. I don't recognize with security a "vergultem" background at the surviving example of the Ambasser game (though it seems not totally impossible).
http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks05/d02367/d02367.htm

The second game is described as a ´"hystorisch Kartten spil" with old Roman Emperors, Mayors, Kings and Queens together with many fantastic figures. I don't know, what this might be similar to.

The third object (in silver and gold) might be a deck made on the base of the Vigil Solis deck, with lions, monkeys, parrots and peacocks (this Vigil Solis deck was also used for the Catelyn Godefroy Tarot deck 1557). Here's the Vigil Solis deck:
http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks07/d05352/d05352.htm

All three have worthwhile boxes.

The Fickler'sche Verzeichnis is announced here (2005):
http://www.iaslonline.de/index.php?vorgang_id=1182
Fickler had been a teacher of Maximilian I. ...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Baptist_Fickler
Maximilian I is described here ..
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_I._%28Bayern%29

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I found ...

Spielen und Konflikte ums Spielen in den Zürcher Richtbüchern zwischen 1446 und 1475
Philipp Caretta
GRIN Verlag, 29.10.2008 - 154 Seiten
In dieser Lizentiatsarbeit sollen das Spielen und Konflikte ums Spielen in den Zürcher Richtbüchern von 1446 bis 1475 untersucht werden. Hier scheint mir zuerst einmal eine Definition von Spielkonflikt notwendig. Darunter verstehe ich einen Rechtsfall, zu dem sämtliche Klagen, Gegen- und Nebenklagen sowie Nachgänge gezählt werden, die alle auf die gleiche Streitursache innerhalb einer Spielsituation zurückzuführen sind. Das gilt auch, wenn sich Nichtspieler einschalteten, indem sie zum Beispiel in ein Spiel dreinredeten oder zwischen zwei Parteien schlichten wollten, wodurch erst der eigentliche Rechtsstreit entstand. Natürlich gibt es auch Konflikte, die sich lediglich aus einer Klage oder – wenn eine obrigkeitliche Spielverordnung missachtet wurde – aus einem Nachgang ergaben. Vereinzelt sind in den Zürcher Rechtsfällen auch nur fragmentarische Zeugenaussagen aufgezeichnet. Sofern diese ebenfalls auf einen Streit zwischen Personen oder auf einen Konflikt mit der Obrigkeit hinweisen, werden sie ebenfalls als Spielkonflikt eingestuft. Die zeitliche Eingrenzung ergibt sich daraus, dass zu dem Zeitpunkt, als ich mit dieser Arbeit begann, die Jahrgänge 1450 bis 1470 der Zürcher Steuer- und Richtbücher sowie Eingewinnerverzeichnisse im Rahmen des Nationalfondprojektes von Herrn Professor Gilomen Soziale Beziehungen im Alltag einer spätmittelalterlichen Stadt – Zürich im 15. Jahrhundert bereits transkribiert und in Form einer Projektdatenbank zur prosopographischen Recherche im Internet aufgeschaltet worden waren. Zwar waren die Jahre 1471-1475 noch nicht in die Datenbank integriert, aber schon transkribiert worden; speziell den Richtbüchern der Jahre 1446-1449 habe ich mich selber angenommen, was schliesslich den oben gewählten Zeitrahmen erklärt.
It's a "Lizentiatsarbeit", that means a university work for a student. It's based on the transcription of protocols of juristic cases in Zürich (there'a specifi sponsored project), in which gambling is mentioned. The number of observed cases is high (more than 100). It's only partly online.
http://books.google.de/books?id=gqRWynV ... navlinks_s

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I see that Mr. Spiller writes of the Cary-Yale:
In the 2007 book “The history of the tarot”, scholar Giordano Berti proposes that the deck must necessarily have been produced between 1442 and 1447, because the denari cards (the suit in Italian playing cards corresponding to diamonds) bears the recto and verso of the golden florin coined by F. M. Visconti in 1442 and withdrawn from circulation at his death, in 1447.
I haven't read Berti's book. I only knew of the florins of 1436, reproduced by Andy Pollett, which is similar to but not the same as the coins on the cards (both the Brera-Brambrilla and the CY). What do you think?

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mikeh wrote:I see that Mr. Spiller writes of the Cary-Yale:
In the 2007 book “The history of the tarot”, scholar Giordano Berti proposes that the deck must necessarily have been produced between 1442 and 1447, because the denari cards (the suit in Italian playing cards corresponding to diamonds) bears the recto and verso of the golden florin coined by F. M. Visconti in 1442 and withdrawn from circulation at his death, in 1447.
I haven't read Berti's book. I only knew of the florins of 1436, reproduced by Andy Pollett, which is similar to but not the same as the coins on the cards (both the Brera-Brambrilla and the CY). What do you think?
I don't know, on which facts Berti's suggestion is based. But Ross perhaps has the book.