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Re: Cardmakers of Aix-en-Provence

Posted: 11 Nov 2025, 17:09
by Ross Caldwell
You have probably seen this post I made about Chaffard on Aeclectic probably over 20 years ago, but here it is for the record here. I'll have to post photos of the two other Musée Paul Dupuy and Raymond Ros articles for you here.

"The Chafard family (also spelled Chaffard) were an 18th century family who made cards in Marseille and Béziers. The Monde card in jmd's post is illustrated in "Schweizer Spielkarten 2" (Schaffhausen, 2004), pp. 160-161 (catalogue number 22).

The deck is named as "Joseph Chafard" and dated on the 2 of Deniers as 1747. There is a Bacchus on the 2 of Cups. Thierry Depaulis made the historical notes on the decks illustrated in the catalogue, and he knew that the Chafards were prominent in Béziers. But because he also knew that there is no indication that tarot cards were ever made in Béziers (or anywhere in the south, west of the Rhône in fact), he tentatively assigned it to Marseille.

As I explain below, I believe that the cardmaker Joseph Chafard is to be identified as the oldest son of Louis Chaffard of Béziers from his third marriage.

The two main sources of information about the Chaffards are:

(ed. "R.M.") "La carte à jouer en Languedoc, des origines à 1800" (Toulouse, Musée Paul Dupuy, 1971), pp. 41-43 and 95.

Raymond Ros, _Les Maitres-Cartiers Biterrois au XVIIIe Siècle et l'Aventure du Cartier Chaffard_, printed in J.-D. Bergasse, ed. "Hommage à Jacques Fabre de Morlhon, Mélanges historiques et généalogiques, Rouergue - Bas-Languedoc" (Albi, 1978) pp. 393-402.

H.-R. d'Allemagne first collected data on the Chaffard family of cartiers.

From these three researchers, I constructed the following family tree and deduced certain facts:

Louis Dreveton (Maître-cartier de Marseille) had daughter Françoise, who lived until 1722. Françoise married Louis Chaffard, who would have four wives:

____1). Françoise Dreveton (?-ca. 1722)
____2). Françoise Bernard (?-ca. 1727)
____3). Anne or Marie-Rose Brès (?-1733)
____4). Claire Landes

With Françoise Dreveton (1), Louis had four children:
____1). Jean-Louis (1718-?)
____2). Lucrese
____3). Marguerite
____4). Charles-Roch (1721-?)

With Françoise Bernard (2), Louis had 3 children:
____1). Estienne (1723-?)
____2). Marie (1724-?)
____3). Catharine (1725-?)

With Anne or Marie-Rose Brès (3), Louis had 2 children:
____1). Joseph-Louis (1728-?)
____2). Antoine (1730-?)

With his last wife Claire Landes (4), no children are noted.

D'Allemagne guesses that Louis Chaffard went from Béziers to Marseille around 1750 (II, 404). But Ros found that Louis Chaffard, cartier of Béziers, was in fact dead in 1749. In order to account for this apparent contradiction, Ros suggests the following scenario: surmising (probably correctly) that Louis Dreveton was the father of Chaffard's first wife, and noting that Dreveton was the god-father of Jean-Louis in 1718, and was listed as a witness to Louis Chaffard's last wedding, to Claire Landes, in 1733, Ros suggests that the grandfather raised his grandson Jean-LOUIS in Marseille after the death of his daughter, Jean-Louis' mother, in 1721 or 1722.

However, according to Ros, Jean-Louis (in addition to being a card-maker) is attested as fourth consul of Béziers from 1734-1737, and again from 1742-1749. It seems unlikely that he could have exercised the profession of cartier in Marseille as well! (this is a mistake of Ros' - see further below). Given that Dreveton was close enough to Chaffard to be a witness to his fourth marriage, it seems plausible that instead of his own grandchildren, Dreveton might have taken the two *youngest* of Chaffard's children, from his 3rd marriage, to Marseille, where one of them, JOSEPH-Louis, might have become the cardmaker whose name appears on the tarot of 1747. If so, he would have been only 19 years old when the moulds were carved.

Moreover, although D'Allemagne tells us to be careful not to confuse Louis Chaffard of Béziers with the Louis Chaffard of Marseille (II, 404), he does not give proof that the Chaffard mentioned in Marseille in 1753 actually had the first name "Louis" when he alludes to the document mentioning him in vol. II, pp. 319-320. Moreover, in his indices, he refers to this Marseillais as only "Chaffard", with no prénom. We therefore have room to suspect that it was another Chaffard who went from Béziers to Marseille (or who was native to Marseille).

Here are excerpts of a study I sent to Thierry Depaulis. He agrees with my conclusions -

"I finally have some time this weekend to do a little study. Attached are the family relations among the Chaffards that I have culled from Ros' article, and a comment about D'Allemagne and Ros. Louis Chaffard, cartier of Béziers, married the (likely) daughter of Louis Dreveton, maître-cartier of Marseille around 1718. I don't know if the marriage took place in Béziers or Marseille, but Louis' entire career was spent in Béziers.

I believe the best suggestion is that one of Louis Chaffard's sons from his third marriage, Joseph-Louis Chaffard, is the card maker named on the remains of the tarot illustrated in Schweizer Spielkarten 2. It is not clear from D'Allemagne that the Chaffard in Marseille in 1753 was actually named "Louis" Chaffard, as both he (cf. II, 319-320 with II, 404) and Ros (depending on him) think.

On page 396 Ros writes : "Jean-Louis était encore en 1748 et 1749 quatrième consul de Béziers, fonctions qu'il avait exercées de 1734 à 1737 et de 1742 à 1749..."

On checking through the pièces jusificatives, I noted that "Jean-Louis Chaffard" is never mentioned as a cartier in Béziers - only Louis. Furthermore, "Jean-Louis" would only have been 16 (if not 15) in 1734, when he is supposed to have been consul of Béziers!

In fact, Jean-Louis may have nothing at all to do with this tale. Neither Ros nor D'Allemagne knew the "Joseph Chaffard" tarot, so we are looking for a Joseph, not a Louis, nor a Jean-Louis.

I think it much more likely to be Marseille, only because tarots are not known in Béziers (to the best of my knowledge), and only Louis and Charles Roch Chaffard are known as cartiers de Béziers. The little Bacchus (on the 2 of Cups) may then be the younger Chaffard's way of recognizing his origins (the cultivation of the vine has always been the first industry of our region), or simply a typical card deck image."

https://www.tarotforum.net/threads/the- ... ost-762156

Re: Cardmakers of Aix-en-Provence

Posted: 11 Nov 2025, 17:27
by SteveM
SteveM wrote: 11 Nov 2025, 16:41
I have seen another tarot with a bachus like figure on the 2 of Cups : I wrote in previous post Tourcaty (when I know full well he has a Phoenix) &cannot recall which other deck it was.
Ah - my memory wasn't that far wrong ! Except we have three, not two, with Bacchus on the two of cups:

Joseph Chaffard (dated 1747)

Jean-François Tourcaty fils (c. 1750)

Joseph-Noël Icarden (c. 1755?)

Are there any online images of the other two decks ? (Tourcaty fils & Icarden?)
Ross Caldwell wrote: 11 Nov 2025, 17:09 You have probably seen this post I made about Chaffard on Aeclectic probably over 20 years ago, but here it is for the record here. I'll have to post photos of the two other Musée Paul Dupuy and Raymond Ros articles for you here.
Yes I have, & it was very useful. I searched for Paul Dupuy & Ros online but was unable to find them accessible online.

Re: Cardmakers of Aix-en-Provence

Posted: 11 Nov 2025, 17:31
by Ross Caldwell
SteveM wrote: 11 Nov 2025, 17:27
SteveM wrote: 11 Nov 2025, 16:41
I have seen another tarot with a bachus like figure on the 2 of Cups : I wrote in previous post Tourcaty (when I know full well he has a Phoenix) &cannot recall which other deck it was.
Ah - my memory wasn't that far wrong ! Except we have three, not two, with Bacchus on the two of cups:

Joseph Chaffard (dated 1747)

Jean-François Tourcaty fils (c. 1750)

Joseph-Noël Icarden (c. 1755?)

Are there any online images of the other two decks ? (Tourcaty fils & Icarden?)
Ross Caldwell wrote: 11 Nov 2025, 17:09 You have probably seen this post I made about Chaffard on Aeclectic probably over 20 years ago, but here it is for the record here. I'll have to post photos of the two other Musée Paul Dupuy and Raymond Ros articles for you here.
Yes I have, & it was very useful. I searched for Paul Dupuy & Ros online but was unable to find them accessible online.
I'll look for Tourcaty and Icarden.

I'm glad you found my post useful. I've looked for the two others online as well - save me the effort of photographing them! - but they do not appear to be. It's too dark to take good photos now, I'll do it tomorrow.

I noticed that you discovered Louis Chaffard as apprentice in 1696. Was this is Aix-en-Provence? If it could also mean Marseille, then D'Allemagne and Ros were right that there was a Louis Chaffard cardmaker in Marseille, and that we shouldn't confuse him with Jean-Louis the consul in Béziers. But they didn't know of Joseph Chaffard the Marseille cardmaker.

Re: Cardmakers of Aix-en-Provence

Posted: 11 Nov 2025, 17:40
by SteveM
Ross Caldwell wrote: 11 Nov 2025, 17:31 I noticed that you discovered Louis Chaffard as apprentice in 1696. Was this is Aix-en-Provence? If it could also mean Marseille, then D'Allemagne and Ros were right that there was a Louis Chaffard cardmaker in Marseille, and that we shouldn't confuse him with Jean-Louis the consul in Béziers. But they didn't know of Joseph Chaffard the Marseille cardmaker.

Yes, but in the town of Aix, not Marseille. Allemagne has them in 𝘓𝘦𝘴 𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘢̀ 𝘫𝘰𝘶𝘦𝘳 𝘥𝘶 𝘟𝘐𝘝 𝘢𝘶 𝘟𝘟 𝘴𝘪𝘦̀𝘤𝘭𝘦 𝘝𝘰𝘭. 2⁣, page 332, but with spelling variants Jaufroy & Chafaud :

Le plus ancien document que nous ayons retrouvé, sur l’existence des maitres cartiers dans la ville d'Aix, porte la date de 1696, mais ces industriels etaient alors déjà fort nombreux dans l'ancienne capitale de la Provence. Dans les registres de la capitation, on trouve, en effet, les noms de huit de ces maîtres qui possédaient des ouvroirs assez importants :



Jacques Jaufroy, maistre; un compagnon : Jean Mellet; un apprentif : Louis Chafaud.


I was able to connect them though through the marriage of Louis Chaffard to Jacques Geoffroy's grand-daughter Francoise (daughter of Jean Dreveton and Marguerite Geoffroy)

I suspect Thomas and/or Jean Dreveton, sons of Jean Dreveton and Antoinette, were also apprenticed to Jacques Geoffroy too, like Louis Chaffard.

Re: Cardmakers of Aix-en-Provence

Posted: 11 Nov 2025, 17:50
by SteveM
SteveM wrote: 11 Nov 2025, 17:40 Yes, but in the town of Aix, not Marseille. Allemagne has them in 𝘓𝘦𝘴 𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘢̀ 𝘫𝘰𝘶𝘦𝘳 𝘥𝘶 𝘟𝘐𝘝 𝘢𝘶 𝘟𝘟 𝘴𝘪𝘦̀𝘤𝘭𝘦 𝘝𝘰𝘭. 2⁣, page 332, but with spelling variants Jaufroy & Chafaud :

Le plus ancien document que nous ayons retrouvé, sur l’existence des maitres cartiers dans la ville d'Aix, porte la date de 1696, mais ces industriels etaient alors déjà fort nombreux dans l'ancienne capitale de la Provence. Dans les registres de la capitation, on trouve, en effet, les noms de huit de ces maîtres qui possédaient des ouvroirs assez importants :



Jacques Jaufroy, maistre; un compagnon : Jean Mellet; un apprentif : Louis Chafaud.


I was able to connect them though through the marriage of Louis Chaffard to Jacques Geoffroy's grand-daughter Francoise (daughter of Jean Dreveton and Marguerite Geoffroy)
Jean Dreveton [born ???? in Hostun, died June 18, 1686], son of Jean Dreveton & Antoinnete Canillac, married Marguerite Geoffroy, daughter of Jacques Geoffroy & Francoise Jan(e?) on January 16, 1668 in Aix en Provence.

Francoise Dreveton, Daughter of Jean Dreveton & Marguerite Geoffroy, born 8 July 1683 at Aix en Provence Ste Madeleine, married with Louis Chaffard on February 24 1710 also at Aix en Provence Ste Madeleine. Sometime after marriage, they appear in Béziers.

Louis also had a brother Joseph, who married Gabrielle Colomb in 1693 at Aix-en-Provence. Surely this is too early for our (Joseph) Chaffard of Marseille, c 1747 - but possibly a descendent? One brother setting up shop in Beziers, and the other in Marseille? If, indeed, this brother was also a cartier, I don't know.

Re: Cardmakers of Aix-en-Provence

Posted: 11 Nov 2025, 19:11
by SteveM
Ross Caldwell wrote: 11 Nov 2025, 17:09
"The Chafard family (also spelled Chaffard) were an 18th century family who made cards in Marseille and Béziers. The Monde card in jmd's post is illustrated in "Schweizer Spielkarten 2" (Schaffhausen, 2004), pp. 160-161 (catalogue number 22).

The deck is named as "Joseph Chafard" and dated on the 2 of Deniers as 1747. There is a Bacchus on the 2 of Cups. Thierry Depaulis made the historical notes on the decks illustrated in the catalogue, and he knew that the Chafards were prominent in Béziers. But because he also knew that there is no indication that tarot cards were ever made in Béziers (or anywhere in the south, west of the Rhône in fact), he tentatively assigned it to Marseille.
It's likely I think that after his apprenticeship to Jacques Geoffroy, Louis Chaffard worked in Aix as a journeyman - perhaps then moving to Beziers as a maitre-marchand cartier in his own right after his marriage to Geoffroy's grand-daughter in 1710? Louis had a brother also in Aix named Joseph, but other than his marriage to Gabrielle Colomb I know no more of him. Given the date of his marriage (1693) I presume Joseph to be a (much) older brother.

Of a Chaffard cartier in Marseille we know that In January 1753, Marseille’s master card-makers petitioned the Keeper of the Seals to:

Force inactive masters and widows to either pay their share of guild dues or formally renounce their titles.

Invalidate mastership for those who had left the trade without royal permission, citing royal declarations from 1669 to 1741.

They proposed to:

Limit the number of active masters to eight, with vacancies filled alternately by sons of masters and senior journeymen (favoring sons).

Centralize production in a single factory to revive the declining trade.

Take on all community debts and future taxes in exchange for exclusive rights.

The eight proposed members were: Tourcaty, Chosson, Bourlion, Chaffard, Guiges, Icarden, Grillet & Fautrier.

Though we have no pronom, it is reasonable I think to suppose this Chaffard, maitre cartier of Marseille, is the Joseph Chaffard of our 1747 tarot deck.

Re: Cardmakers of Aix-en-Provence

Posted: 12 Nov 2025, 10:02
by Ross Caldwell

Re: Cardmakers of Aix-en-Provence

Posted: 12 Nov 2025, 10:30
by Ross Caldwell
Drouot auction Tourcaty fils -

https://www.gazette-drouot.com/en/lots/ ... rancois---

Not a great image, but there is the Bacchus.
Image

Re: Cardmakers of Aix-en-Provence

Posted: 12 Nov 2025, 10:38
by Ross Caldwell
Here is Paul Marteau's Tourcaty fils (Depaulis 1984 no. 138 (pp. 137-138). No Bacchus

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b ... rk=42918;4

This at the British Museum seems to be another printing of the same deck
https://www.britishmuseum.org/collectio ... 1-568-1-58

Re: Cardmakers of Aix-en-Provence

Posted: 12 Nov 2025, 12:29
by SteveM
Thanks Ross ! (especially for the Ros! I need a bit of time to digest it.)

I had the pdf of the Drouot on my old computer - that probably where I recall having seen it. But I am sure I have seen it elsewhere too, on the cover of a periodical, in better resolution.

Yes the ones at the BM & BnF appear to be from the same block that has been modified "a la mode révolutionnaire."

The Amphoux-Arnoux Anno X (c1801) was modelled after the Tourcaty we find at the BM and BnF, from which we may get a better idea of what the Tourcaty looked like prior to the blocks modifications:

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b ... k=300430;4