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Eugimy Hendrix
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Dummett (and Decker and Depaulis have to be included here, although it sounds like Dummett) is simply making a banal observation.EUGIM wrote:* Even Mr. Dummett in " A wicked pack of cards " said :
- " Hidden meanings could have have been concealed within the Tarot trumps,even if those meanings were quiet irrelevant to any uses made of the cards in early times. "
Of course you didn't; everyone knows that. That some choose to misread and misrepresent your position to develop a 'straw man' for them to demolish says more about their position than yours, reduced as they are to a rhetorical device than a legitimate argument; and reflects the paucity of their position, not yours.OnePotato wrote: PS- I never suggested anything about divination.
I don't believe anyone purposely chose to misread and misrepresent OnePotato. Really Steve, it's this type of attack that says a lot.SteveM wrote:Of course you didn't; everyone knows that. That some choose to misread and misrepresent your position to develop a 'straw man' for them to demolish says more about their position than yours, reduced as they are to a rhetorical device than a legitimate argument.OnePotato wrote: PS- I never suggested anything about divination.
Then why does it become a discussion of 'secrets' and 'occult' positions that OP never intended? Such was a total misrepresentation of his position; a 'straw man' to ridicule. The fact that you don't recognise that, also says a lot.robert wrote:I don't believe anyone purposely chose to misread and misrepresent OnePotato. Really Steve, it's this type of attack that says a lot.SteveM wrote:Of course you didn't; everyone knows that. That some choose to misread and misrepresent your position to develop a 'straw man' for them to demolish says more about their position than yours, reduced as they are to a rhetorical device than a legitimate argument.OnePotato wrote: PS- I never suggested anything about divination.
If you are referring to Ross' lengthy reply, he seems to be answering the points raised, exactly as he was asked to do by OP. If you are talking about another post or poster, then I'm even more lost.SteveM wrote: Then why does it become a discussion of 'secrets' and 'occult' positions that OP never intended? Such was a total misrepresentation of his position; a 'straw man' to ridicule. The fact that you don't recognise that, also says a lot.
Your position is the straw man, not OPs or mine. He quoted building block 9, I answered it. No mention of divination in either post. Bringing up an unmentioned or unintended argument to attack is by definition a straw man.SteveM wrote:Then why does it become a discussion of 'secrets' and 'occult' positions that OP never intended? Such was a total misrepresentation of his position; a 'straw man' to ridicule. The fact that you don't recognise that, also says a lot.robert wrote:I don't believe anyone purposely chose to misread and misrepresent OnePotato. Really Steve, it's this type of attack that says a lot.SteveM wrote: "PS- I never suggested anything about divination."
Of course you didn't; everyone knows that. That some choose to misread and misrepresent your position to develop a 'straw man' for them to demolish says more about their position than yours, reduced as they are to a rhetorical device than a legitimate argument.
"PS- I never suggested anything about divination."Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote:
Your position is the straw man, not OPs or mine. He quoted building block 9, I answered it. No mention of divination in either post. Bringing up an unmentioned or unintended argument to attack is by definition a straw man.
Well as I haven't said it does I haven't fallen into any such 'trap', but in terms of putting words into anothers mouth and knocking it down it serves I suppose as another exemplar of a type of 'straw man' argument.Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote: Bringing up an unmentioned or unintended argument to attack is by definition a straw man.
Exactly....as OP said he 'never suggested anything about divination.'
"Secrets" and "occult" positions do not necessarily imply divination, nor does divination mean occult. You seem to be falling into Dummett's trap of identifying divination with occultism.