FABRICANTS DES TAROTS DE LA VILLE DE LYON
Tarot makers of Lyon - 1601-1738
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viewtopic.php?p=6190#p6190Hello,
Jean-Marie Lhôte in his Histoire des jeux de sociétés reproduce an image from the Dictionnaire Larousse Mensuel juillet 1919 that pictures the atouts from a Tarot de Marseille deck attributed to a Nicolas Rolichon from the XVIIth century. The picture seems to present a lot of similarities to Dodal or Payen decks, but I didn't find a lot of discussions online regarding this supposed Nicolas Rolichon' Tarot - which is odd since there are lots of discussions about the Chosson's datation. So is that a known mistake that has already been documented or another big question mark ?
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Bertrand
Thanks for catching that, I made an error. We do not have an exact date of his death, we know he was alive in 1635, but he is deceased in the next notice we have of him, some time prior to May 1637. So it should be c1601-c1635/May37. I will correct it later, thanks.Nathaniel wrote: 23 Jan 2022, 09:24 Steve, what is your source for the 1638 date for Rolichon? The sources I have seen give 1635 as the latest known date for Nicolas Rolichon.
I saw a notary Nicolas Rolichon twice mentioned for the years around 1669-1675.Ainsi ne dépouilla-t-on de deux maisons le pennonage du Temple qu’après la mort de son chef, Nicolas Rolichon, en 1606.
****************We have records of two Nicolas Rolichons, father and son, active as cardmakers between 1594 - 1612 (the Elder) and 1620 - 1636 (the Younger), Nicolas the Younger's sons, Jean and Philibert, are active as cardmakers between 1653 and 1664 --
[There was another son Nicolas, but there are no records of him after his birth in 1636 - and he probably died at birth or early infancy]
*****************Some makers
Lyons: Nicolas Rolichon (1572-83), Jean II Genevoy (1567-1610
La carte à jouer : donation faite à la Bibliothèque nationale par Monsieur Paul Marteau, maître cartier, juin 1966 : [exposition, Paris, Bibliothèque nationale, [17 janvier-25 février] 1967] / [catalogue réd. par Jean-Pierre Seguin, Cécile de Jandin et Marie-Thérèse Gourdon] ; [préface par Etienne Dennery]
470 Rouge et noir. Oder die Geschichte von der vier Kônigen aus den Papieren des Staatskanzlers Rolichon von [R.] von STARKLOF. Mainz, F. Kuplerberg, 1829. In12, 248 p., pl. en coul., note manuscrite. Kh. 345 4°.Cinq valets portent les signatures d'Antoine JANIN (1501) ; Nicolas ROLICHON (1575) ; Guillaume CHARPENTIER (1578) ; Jehan GENEVOIX (1591) et Catelin GEOFFRAY (1599).
6 Cartes de jeux édités par Nicolas ROLICHON, à Lyon. 1575-1635. 8 têtes et un fragment.
Savez-vous que l’on trouve des cartes à jouer sur
@GallicaBnF
? Ce jeu de carte lyonnais de 1590 provient de la donation faite à la
@laBnF
par Paul Marteau, maître cartier. On retrouve sur le valet de trèfle le nom de l'imprimeur "Nicolas Rolichon" => https://c.bnf.fr/KYc
Or at least that was the case in the Statutes of 1724:SteveM wrote: 24 Jan 2022, 14:23
Pertinent to note maybe, given the religious troubles of the time between Catholics and Protestants being the cause of much of the emigration to Switzerland, that Guillaume & Dorothee were married in a Catholic church. I was assuming that Guillaume was nominally a Catholic anyway, given that the articles of the master cardmakers of Lyon and other regions stipulate that any apprentice taken on had to be Catholic.