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Dedication of manuscript copy of De fructibus vescendis by Baptista Massa de Argenta, 1471 to Ercole d'Este:
http://www.collegeofphysicians.org/hist ... ated-1471/
Lorenzo de’ Medici continued to use the seven-palli model. An example of its use during the reign of Lorenzo can be found in Botticelli’s Story of Nastagio Degli Onesti, Panels 1 and 3 (1483). The subject work may have been commissioned by Lorenzo for a marriage, which he negotiated between Giannozzo Pucci and Lucrezia Bini. In Panel 3, the Medici device of seven palli (fleur-de-lys at center) is flanked by the Pucci Moor’s Head (left), as well as the Pucci Moor’s Head impaled by the Bini heraldry (right).BOUGEAREL Alain wrote: For the psChVI Charioter, the first rows of Stemma's with 7 Palles without Fleur de Lys would be those of Pietro de Medicis before May 1465
I, too, commented some time ago on the link made by the CVI between the Chariot and Temperance via the matching, six-petalled, dotted floral motif (with a seventh point at center) or Medici device found on the Chariot’s drapes and Temperance’ gown.BOUGEAREL Alain wrote: High speculative nota :
Amongst the virtues, Temperance 's dress is also orned with flower (?) motifs kind of similar to the 7 Palles ...
The same textile repeating the Medicis pattern is on the Chariot immediately below the first rows of the 7 Palles of the Charioter.
Now, if my correspondence between the flower motifs of the dress of the female figure of Temperance and the Medicis Palles motif is anything more than mere speculation , this kind of "textile" for women repeating Medicis motifs as ornement could be the allusion present in the very simple dress of Temperance repeating the Stemma in the psChVI Tarot.
Kate wrote:Lorenzo de’ Medici continued to use the seven-palli model. An example of its use during the reign of Lorenzo can be found in Botticelli’s Story of Nastagio Degli Onesti, Panels 1 and 3 (1483). The subject work may have been commissioned by Lorenzo for a marriage, which he negotiated between Giannozzo Pucci and Lucrezia Bini. In Panel 3, the Medici device of seven palli (fleur-de-lys at center) is flanked by the Pucci Moor’s Head (left), as well as the Pucci Moor’s Head impaled by the Bini heraldry (right).BOUGEAREL Alain wrote: For the psChVI Charioter, the first rows of Stemma's with 7 Palles without Fleur de Lys would be those of Pietro de Medicis before May 1465
But of particular interest is a maiolica plate (Montelupo, ca. 1516) depicting a Leo X procession. The flags carried by Leo’s soldiers bear the Medici seven-palli device—all red with no fleur-de-lys on a field of blue. Presumably, this is due to size restrictions—restrictions, which would, perforce, apply to the CVI as well."
http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O1218 ... er-of-the/
BOUGEAREL Alain wrote:
Regards,
Kate
BOUGEAREL Alain wrote:My review on French Tradition des Tarot de Marseille :
Le pseudo Tarot dit de Charles VI
http://traditiontarot.com/viewtopic.php ... 386#p13386
Any comments to add ?
I guess, nobody had talked of 1485. I had specifically talked from September 1495, other opinions exist. There are 2 texts, as far I remember. One was published in 1521, the other must have been written before 1499, cause that is the death year of the author. This text has specific information about a conflict at a bridge in Asti ... I relate this to the peace negotiations between French troops and Milan, which took place in September 1495 in Asti. The author amuses himself about the bridge guard, which he calls a "tarocus". 3 months before Italian forces and French troops had their battle at the river Taro. The results were rather negative for the French troops.Néanmoins l'expression 'tarocus" se trouvait en usage dès 1485 ... si ma mémoire ne me fait pas défaut. Puf!