EUGIM wrote:We have any crank at the Visconti card.
Days ago you asked me about drastical chnages done by the French engravers as I suggested,once tarot was known in France.
Well,here you have one,the presence of the crank,that nobody moves.
Well, it doesn't mean that it is French. It could be Italian or German or anywhere else that the iconography happened.
So... you're suggesting that the Wheel without someone at the crank is unique to the Tarot de Marseille? Someone (you???) would have to spend time to research that, and build up a case to prove it. As others have said... the allegory is to the
Wheel of Fortune, not to Fortune herself... the meaning is understandable without the need to have the figure of Fortune turning the wheel.
I'm not sure what you're after here... If you are trying to say that there is unique iconography that only appears in the Tarot de Marseille, I'd say that that is possible to spend time and go through each card and look for matches... but that doesn't prove anything at all about where the Tarot de Marseille was made. You have to show that the iconography is unique to France and doesn't appear in other countries (like the wings on Temperance which we found early in Italy).
So, maybe you can do that with this image or others in the Tarot de Marseille. It's up to
you to do the research (since it is you trying to make the point) and find other images that match the image in the Tarot de Marseille and show that they can
only be found in France before you have any case to say that the iconography of the Tarot de Marseille is in any way "French". To simply say that it is unique doesn't prove its origin.
And if it turns out the Tarot de Marseille is French, I'm perfectly fine with that. I simply don't think we know where it came from, although I still
lean towards Italy.