"The 5x14 Theory: An Investigation" part II

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2. Madres, hijas y jueces

Aclarado esto, veamos cómo se hace una consulta. Lo primero es construir cuatro figuras: las madres. Como hemos visto, para construir una figura se tira cuatro veces un dado (o lo que sea) y se van poniendo uno o dos puntos según el resultado sea par o impar. Imaginemos que el resultado es este (se escriben de derecha a izquierda, porque así escriben los árabes):
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Para dibujar la quinta figura, se cogen los puntos de la primera fila de cada una de estas cuatro madres y se van poniendo en orden. Primero los de la primera, luego los de la segunda, etcétera.
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Siguiendo este mismo procedimiento, se forma la sexta figura tomando los puntos de la segunda fila; la séptima, con los de la tercera; y la octava, con los de la cuarta.
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Estas otras cuatro figuras se llaman hijas y se dibujan, también de derecha a izquierda, al lado de las madres
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Para las siguientes figuras, el procedimiento cambia. Se van sumando, por parejas, los puntos de cada fila. Si el resultado es par, se ponen dos puntos, si es impar, un punto. Por ejemplo:
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Así, con la primera y la segunda, se saca la novena; con la tercera y la cuarta, la décima; con la quinta y la sexta, la undécima; y con la séptima y la octava, la duodécima. Estas cuatro figuras resultantes son los sobrinos.
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Con el mismo procedimiento de ir sumando figuras por parejas, se obtienen las figuras 13 y 14. La 13 sumando la 9 y la 10; y la 14 con la 11 y la 12. Estas dos nuevas figuras se denominan testigos.

Siempre de la misma manera, sumando la 13 y la 14, se obtiene la figura 15, que es la más importante. Recibe el nombre de juez y es la que determina la respuesta. Además, también se emplea otra figura más, el superjuez (sobregiudice), que se obtiene duplicando a la inversa el juez: donde hay un punto se ponen dos y viceversa.
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I can return in English.

Thats mind, in Geomantia, we have this sistem:

4 mothers + 4 daughters + 4 nephew = 12 figures of a family
2 witnesses
1 Judge (this is the main figure)
1 Overjudge


Well... its similar at:

12 figures of a family > 12 olimpic parents
2 witnesses > Eracles and Eolo
1 Judge > Dafne
1 Overjudge > Cupido.

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This is the pasage where explain the bad, neutral and good figures:
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Then I can explain this if its necesarilly... Now I need sleep and making tristitia or I divorced.
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mmfilesi wrote:This is the pasage where explain the bad, neutral and good figures:
This evaluation is different to one of of the Eastern evaluations.

http://www.shikanda.net/ancient_models/ ... 201996.pdf
see page 12

At page 15 there is a table with variations in the relations between geomantic sign and astrological house.
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Thanks Huck, its interesting. Now I read slowly.

I dont know the exactly titles of books geomantia thats read Filippo.

http://trionfi.com/0/l/11/

But I guess its very probabilly read Petrus Albanus, professor of Pavia in the early fourteenth century.

In any case, in reality, its not very important for this scheme. The important is they are 8 pairs opposed.
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I answer in the new geomancy thread ... it's too far off the theme 5x14-theory, anyway
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Well... continued ^^

Summary of last post


Remote Background: chess as an allegory.

Case for example: Cessolis
Case for example: Lex Exchecs


Deck and chess

Ingold: 8 wins, probable structure of chess
Michelino: 16 wins, probable structure of chess.
>>Pos a: 1 army
>>Pos b: two armies with possible influence of geomantic structure

Are we all agreed to this point? Mikeh?
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Well, as nobody says anything, I continued ^^. It is the turn of the Yaly Cary deck's.

In the hypotesis of Trionfi.com, really interesting, says its possible relationship with chess. The basis of this hypothesis is that the deck originally had 16 triunfos.

We think that the deck had:

a) 14 triumphs
b) 16 triumphs
c) X triumphs

Reasons for 16:

a) The favorite number of Filippo its 16 Filippo (for his geomantic beliefs and because it was his lucky day).
b) Michelino deck have 16.
c) In this way, Trionfi.com thesis of 40-24-16 its correct. (And for probability, I think its correct).

Did I leave any?

Reasons for 14 :
I dont know.

we are all acording with 16? :)
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