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391How do you get 3 double scales yielding the number 8? It seems like it should have been 4 double scales.
... the Netherland wiki gives the source: W. VAN ANROOIJ, Helden van weleer. De Negen Besten in de Nederlanden (1300-1700), Amsterdam, 1997.Based on doctoral research (Van Anrooij 1997), it is now thought likely that van Maerlant was also the author of the hitherto anonymous Van neghen den besten ("On the Nine Worthies"). This would be his last work. It is one of the few works with European distribution whose source text was written in Middle Dutch. The work had a profound and lasting impact on the honor code of the Western European knightly elite.
Many thanks Huck! I've been doing nothing but reading this literature and only one scholar cited the Dutch source (was wondering how legit it was), so thanks again for the very timely post.Huck wrote: 22 May 2020, 08:38 Neun gute Helden / Neuf-preux / Nine Worthies
In contrast to the widespred version, that Jacques of Longuyons was the inventor of the Nine Worthies in 1312, an expert of Netherland literature had published his thesis, that Jacob van Maerlant was active with the topic before.
An excellent article that updates the controversy (has serious critics) with the author saying van Maerlant's thesis has merits but does not conclusively decide either way.Phaeded wrote: 22 May 2020, 18:11....was wondering how legit it was...Huck wrote: 22 May 2020, 08:38 Neun gute Helden / Neuf-preux / Nine Worthies
In contrast to the widespred version, that Jacques of Longuyons was the inventor of the Nine Worthies in 1312, an expert of Netherland literature had published his thesis, that Jacob van Maerlant was active with the topic before.
It is remarkable how often the Nine Worthies appear in a manuscript that also preserves one or more chronicles. This is most apparent in the anuscripts preserving the short Nine Worthies text, where the chronicles are the only other extensive text in the manuscript. But as I have shown, also the Geraardsbergen and Comburg manuscripts preserve chronicles in the vicinity of the Nine Worthies text. It has to be stressed that it goes beyond the reach of this contribution to claim or even suggest that Nine Worthies texts and chronicles are in general meant to be conjoined, but it is interesting that they are found together so often.60 If we allow ourselves a leap that might turn out to be a bit (or even much) too far, it is interesting to see that when found close together, a chronicle and a Nine Worthies text form an interesting combination that has a two-way effect. A Nine Worthies text is a moralized synopsis in narrative form of the history described in the chronicles, summarized around nine heroes, and v.v., the chronicles are factual, wider histories, (usually implicitly) putting the achievements of the Nine Worthies in a broad historical context. Even if this is not the intention, the effect is noteworthy and could be a starting point for comparative research.
Bouwmeester, Gerard. 'The Nine Worthies in Middle Dutch Miscellanies', in Brigitte. Burrichter et al. (eds), Aktuelle Tendenzen der Artusforschung (Berlin), 2013: 360.
https://dynamicsofthemedievalmanuscript ... rthies.pdf
Finally, Comburg preserves a short epilogue in which the author summons his audience to add to this list of Nine: »He who wants to praise better knights or wise men than these Nine were in their days, mention them without delay« (l. 582–585). (ibid, 354)
From the English edition 1766The Vicar of Wakefield – subtitled A Tale, Supposed to be written by Himself – is a novel by Irish writer Oliver Goldsmith (1728–1774). It was written from 1761 to 1762 and published in 1766. It was one of the most popular and widely read 18th-century novels among Victorians.
... quoted from https://books.google.de/books?id=VMSHDw ... ld&f=false .... the French title was the original work and was published in 1767. The quoted text contains interesting biographical details in English language.Bielfeld also wrote an interesting work on the recent progress of Germany and an encyclopedic work in the Enlightenment tradition: "L'érudition universelle, ou Analyse abrégée de toutes les sciences, des beaux-arts et des belles-lettres" in four volumes.