Tarot History Forum

Hi Debra,

debra wrote:EE, I did not recognize the Christianity in my first deck (Rider Waite, what else?) for um hm 25 or 30 years.

Actually, I never looked at a RWS when I started.

In Venezuela, if you wanted to get a tarot deck the place to go was a ‘botanica’ a shop that sells herbs, potions and ‘baths’, usually linked to a syncretism between Afro-Diaspora religions, the Indian-historical pantheon and spiritism. In there you would find only the Tarot de Marseille, perhaps the Spanish tarot, and Spanish cards (Mostly from Fournier). Nothing more. These shops are quite hardcore, with armadillo tails and rattlesnakes hanging around and, if there is a reader in the house, he or she will start the reading by blowing smoke from a big cigar, spit rum, and get possessed or things like that. You go there to have a problem solved via witchcraft. It is only recently -less than 10 years- that more ‘vanilla’ new age shops are proliferating and selling pyramids, gemstones, contact lenses for the third eye, sponges to wash your chackras, deodorant for your aura and tarot decks like the RWS or anything with cats, dolphins and vampires.


Best,


EE

Yeah, if I'd started with a deck that had a Pope in it, I might have caught on quicker LOL.

Do we have a consensus that a phrase should be added to the Building Blocks thread? What is the current suggestion?

* No,you are wrong.

-The earliest example of a Devil with a face in his "pance" is the one of a Bolognese tarot as Depaulis mentioned.
But Medieval French Art has earlier example....

I agree with Marco that the narrative of the early tarot is informed by orthodox religious motifs of the Roman Catholic church.

"the narrative of the early tarot is informed by orthodox religious motifs of the Roman Catholic church"

I like that, okay with everyone? Something else?

* Hello Robert,nice night there mon ami !

1- Early Italians tarots had Roman Catholic beliefs "infuse" by Plato and Company.
Detail : Unamed and unumbered.

2- Tarot de Marseille took that and kicked it straight ahead by "scandalous"
Detail: Named and numbered.


. à bientôt j'espere ...


Eugim

Hi Robert,

I also agree with Marco’s suggestion.

Even if some images aren’t intrinsically Christian, in the tarot they are used within a Christian frame and purpose.


Best,

EE

I've added "The narrative of the early tarot is informed by orthodox religious motifs of the Roman Catholic church" to the Building Blocks list.

* Tarot was based in the earliest Christian sacred beliefs,so not in the Catholic gaaaarrrlllsss...........