... now maybe I can get around to talking about *my* opinion of the earliest trump order! Ross I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts Ross. I'm particularly interested in knowing if you think the Southern order is older, and also if you have thoughts that it might be from Florence (based on oth...

Thanks OnePotato, superb!

With letters of the same proportions, SELLON fits perfectly.

Ross

A further point about the 2 of Deniers is that the name Chosson has smaller and thicker letters than name François. Also, the name "Chosson" does not curve properly in relation to the curve of the banner, unlike the elegant and properly-fitted "François." I guess that the name &q...

I think it has to be 1672 as well. Here is the argument I made on Aeclectic a few months ago - I think, if you look at the close-up at JC Flornoy's site http://letarot.com/dossiers-chauds/...-1672-1872.html the "c" must be part of a "6". Looking closely, you can see an ascending ...

Hi everybody, nice to meet you Dai. The Steele Sermon is certainly Franciscan. Ronald Decker wrote us on LTarot in 2004 that the volume of sermons, all written in the same hand, contains one on the Stigmata of St. Francis, which convinced him the author was a Franciscan. Subsequently, Thierry Depaul...

Don't forget the Chariot discovered in the late 80s and now in the Musée Français de la Carte à Jouer in Issy-les-Moulineaux (referred to as the "Issy Chariot") - http://www.issy.com/musee/ct3.htm http://www.rosscaldwell.com/images/visconti/issychariot.jpg Thierry Depaulis identified this ...

Couldn't it also have been adapted from a Tarot to play Trappola? At least originally? Of course, that's just noting the existing cards match Trappola. It doesn't mean much without knowing if other cards exist. Yes, that was my twice removed hypothesis - "A less likely scenario is that the ada...

A few other considerations occurred to me while resting. If the deck were adapted from a Tarot to play Piquet, for instance, why not use the original Queen and 6, which would have been present in Tarot? It thus seems more likely that this is a complete suit as made, and was adapted from its original...

Thanks for inviting me to the new club...er, forum, Robert. Glad to see Michael here too. These cards have intrigued me since I saw them on your blog, and Michael's observations about Trappola are good. I notice also that the courts are written R, D and V (Roi, Dame, Valet) so a French person wrote ...