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Re: Dating the Pavia tarocchi appropriati poem (a.k.a. the "Susio" poem)

I think the difference in our approaches is that I'm considering all the tarocchi appropriati poems of the entire period, not just this one, because the brief tercets of the Motti give us only a very limited amount of information about the criteria that contributed to the ranking here. That's why I ...

Re: Dating the Pavia tarocchi appropriati poem (a.k.a. the "Susio" poem)

I would like to have seen more argument for why the ranking would follow the conventions of a beauty contest. That seems more of an assumption than an evidence-based position. I vaguely remember reading that in one case, where the women at the top were really flattered, it may have had to do with t...

Re: Dating the Pavia tarocchi appropriati poem (a.k.a. the "Susio" poem)

(Part 3 of 3) [media]https://drive.google.com/file/d/17-RZglFsbv956Ra_jpyFQBxsfvv8NBgd/view?usp=sharing[/media] Footnotes: 1 - Moiraghi believed that it was not the son, but the father, Gentile Beccaria della Pieve del Cairo the elder—the husband of Maddalena—who had died by 1531 (p. 63, note 1). M...

Re: Dating the Pavia tarocchi appropriati poem (a.k.a. the "Susio" poem)

(Part 2 of 3) As additional evidence that the order of the works was Motti, then Poesie, then Rime, one can observe that the Poesie contain the fewest unique names, both proportionally and absolutely. About half the names in the Motti and Rime are not found in the other two works, but this is true ...

Dating the Pavia tarocchi appropriati poem (a.k.a. the "Susio" poem)

(Part 1 of 3) This is a discussion of the evidence for dating the tarocchi appropriati work entitled Motti alle signore di Pavia sotto il titolo de i Tarocchi , sometimes called “the Susio poem” after Giovan Battista Susio, who was for some time believed to be its author, although this has now been...

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