Re: Gebelin: Introduction

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Thanks Mike, Ross - I have inserted those links.

Still working on the Mellet - it's becoming a bit of chore towards the end :D
The bbcode table function doesn't seem to work on this forum, so I have put in an image instead.

I also have a rough translation of Dammartin's lecture to the History Institute, 1838 - which contains I think the earliest reference to the attribution of Hebrew letters to the trumps in sequence commencing Alef-Bateleur, the book he published of the same the next year was a great influence on Levi, Papus et al. (His main theses was that ancient hieroglyphs alphabets were based upon lines between constellations, and bases it mainly on the 22 Chinese characters of the Chinese Stem-Branch calendar). Would it be of interest also putting it up here? The book itself is very rare, and a translation of it some years ago was in a limited edition of only a 142 copies, so still hard to come by - so I don't think many people are very familiar with it.
Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different.
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Re: Gebelin: Introduction

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Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote:
14 Aug 2019, 10:10
I'm just checking it out now. I think Dammartin is worth finishing. I found the Caractères alphabétiques book, but most of it is not relevant to Tarot, of course.

Saw the exhorbitantly priced translation, too.
It would be great to find the tableaux that went with the lecture, and published in the book, to go with the translation! Yes the published translation is very expensive, even if there are copies available it is way beyond my means.
Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote:
14 Aug 2019, 10:26
Dammartin seems to attribute Shin to the Fool as Orion, although he calls it the 22nd card. Am I reading him right? Is Dammartin the source for why Levi and every French author after him puts the Fool as Shin?
I need to check, just trying to finish the Mellet and I will take a look (am getting quite side-tracked looking up various references and notes for it) - from what I recall without checking yes, I think it could very well be where Levi got it from. Dammartin definitely attributes the Fool to Orion, but I am not sure whether he attributes the letter Shin to just the Hare of Orion, or to both Orion and his Hare?

edited to add: put the initial draft translation of Dammartin up, any help checking and correcting it much appreciated. The link to the original French text is in the text. It's a bit confusing, but I think he is relating the Fool more to the stars of Shin, and those of the World to Tau? The tableau that went with it might clear up any confusion...
Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different.
T. S. Eliot

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