The original idea behind this thread is to look at the evidence for a French or Italian origin for the Tarot de Marseille. I think it's a real riddle, and I love to explore it.EUGIM wrote:Thanks Robert for the Noblet Numerals ...
I never saw them / Beautiful !
I haven t them yet till Santa Claus arrive soon...
1-Evidently word is wider in Tarot de Marseille world ...
2-Could be a less possibility that the engravers were somewhat lazy boys ?
3-After all Tarot de Marseille has for me a different art source than italians decks,and philosophical also.
The case for an Italian origin, I would suggest (and hope for correction), includes:
1. There is no evidence that tarot developed in France. All historical evidence points to Italy. The older the Tarot de Marseille pattern is, the more likely it is that it originated in Italy, not France.
2. The Sforza Castle cards were found in Milan, Italy. The World card shows a pattern without the titles (and most likely without the numbers). If the pattern existed in Italy without the titles and numbers, and only existed in France with them, is there any explanation other than that the older pattern is the one without the titles and numbers added; and therefore, Italy had the pattern first?
What is the case for the French origin?