Dating the François Chosson Tarot?

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Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?

Postby robert on 06 Jun 2009, 14:41

(Oh my. Well please don't make it TOO scary! ;) )

Let's try it another way then... what is it about 1672, and the evidence given in this thread, that you don't find convincing?
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Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?

Postby EUGIM on 06 Jun 2009, 17:09

* Okay baby ...

- Ends of story ...
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Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?

Postby jmd on 09 Jun 2009, 12:40

:-* :p :-* :p peer pressure at work :ymdevil: :o) :ymcowboy: b-( b-( b-(

...or, as a badge that I was given in the 1980s says...

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Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?

Postby Ross G. R. Caldwell on 26 Feb 2010, 16:17

OnePotato or anybody, did you save the reconstruction of the Chosson 2 of Deniers with "Sellon" in it instead of Chosson?

I see the "1672" reconstruction, but we've lost the Sellon one.
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Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?

Postby macaroon on 18 Apr 2011, 02:35

I think François Chosson Tarot was believed to be the oldest Tarot de Marseille deck known to have been made in Marseilles. It was officially classified by the historians as being of unknown origin. the date written on the Two of Coins was 1672, which made it the oldest Tarot de Marseille deck known to have been made in Marseilles.

The date of the oldest Marseilles-made deck of Tarot de Marseille was again rolled back to 1608 due to my intervention and following the subsequent deductions of Professor Robert O’Neill. Until then, the date had been fixed at 1760. This made close to two centuries of difference, and the gap between the dates of the oldest Italian and Marseillan decks was thus considerably narrowed.

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Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?

Postby Huck on 18 Apr 2011, 07:04

macaroon wrote:I think François Chosson Tarot was believed to be the oldest Tarot de Marseille deck known to have been made in Marseilles. It was officially classified by the historians as being of unknown origin. the date written on the Two of Coins was 1672, which made it the oldest Tarot de Marseille deck known to have been made in Marseilles.

The date of the oldest Marseilles-made deck of Tarot de Marseille was again rolled back to 1608 due to my intervention and following the subsequent deductions of Professor Robert O’Neill. Until then, the date had been fixed at 1760. This made close to two centuries of difference, and the gap between the dates of the oldest Italian and Marseillan decks was thus considerably narrowed.

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... welcome to the Forum, macaroon

"The date of the oldest Marseilles-made deck of Tarot de Marseille was again rolled back to 1608 due to my intervention and following the subsequent deductions of Professor Robert O’Neill. "
... is a quote of a web page of Phillippe Camoin.

http://en.camoin.com/tarot/Francois-Cho ... Tarot.html

Are you Phillippe Camoin?
If yes, why did you date it to 1608?
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Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?

Postby Bertrand on 18 Apr 2011, 10:19

Hello Huck

Seeing his signature, macaroon looks like some sort of "smart" spammer, cutting and pasting pieces of texts more or less related to the context. If it is an automated bot I must reckon it is indeed quite cleverly programmed.

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Re: Dating the François Chosson Tarot?

Postby robert on 18 Apr 2011, 10:23

Macaroon is a real life person. I was hesitant to approve the membership request, but he/she wrote to me asking for permission to join. The above was copied and pasted from Camoin's site, as Huck noted, so on the verge of spamming. We'll assume the best for now and hope that macaroon realises that there is no need for that type of behaviour and instead, read the threads and participate in the conversations. We'll see.
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