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The Fool

Posted: 12 Nov 2009, 21:57
by robert
A thread to discuss the iconography of The Fool

Re: The Fool

Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 08:49
by Pen
From Cesare Ripa's Iconologia (first published in 1593, not illustrated). The previous page displays the text.

http://emblem.libraries.psu.edu/Ripa/Im ... pa059b.htm

Re: The Fool

Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 12:15
by robert
That's a wonderful image. I love the hobby horse, which still has associations in England; but especially the pinwheel, which makes me think of the Mitelli from the mid-1600s. You'll notice the same image in the forum banner.

Image

Re: The Fool

Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 15:09
by Pen
The text from the previous page is interesting too - imagine every 's' written in the old way, like a long 'f'.

from Ripa's Iconologia:
A person at Man's Estate, in a long black garment; laughing; riding upon a Hobby-horse; holding, in one Hand, a Whirligig of Past-board; and plays the Fool with Children, who make him twirl it by the Wind.
Folly is only acting contrary to true Decorum, and the common Custom of Men, delighting in childish Toys, and things of little Moment.
The Mitelli Fool is rather beautiful, with only concentration and delight in his expression.

Re: The Fool

Posted: 16 Nov 2009, 17:05
by Pen
This old etching reminds me so strongly of Tarocco Neoclassico's Il Matto, that I can't help wondering if there could be any connection. The text reads:

Unidentified. Wie gewonnen, so zerronnen [ex-soldier with arm in sling walking with walking stick, small dog behind him, battle scene in background; printed on sheet with German letterpress text]. 1632
1 print (etching), 36.8 x 26 cm.




Here's the Neoclassico card



Pen

Re: The Fool

Posted: 16 Nov 2009, 18:41
by Huck
The soldier picture expresses a bad mood in a bad time - 30-years war in Germany, in 1632 14 years have passed and 16 are still to come. After it the population had decreased to 2/3 of the original state.

Re: The Fool

Posted: 17 Nov 2009, 00:01
by marco
Another interesting one from Ripa is Pericolo (i.e. Danger).

Marco

Re: The Fool

Posted: 17 Nov 2009, 07:56
by Pen
And this one. I wonder which deck was the first to show the figure on the edge of a precipice?

http://emblem.libraries.psu.edu/Ripa/Im ... pa060b.htm

Ripa's Iconologia: Danger
A Stripling walks in the Fields; treads upon a Snake which bites his Leg; on his right Side there is a Precipice, and a Torrent on the other; he leans only upon a weak Reed; and is surrounded with Lightning from Heaven.

His youth shows the Danger he is in. His walking shows that men walking through the flow'ry Fields of Prosperity fall into some Calamity unawares. The Reed shows the Fraility of our Life, in continual Danger: The Lightning that we are subject, besides, to Danger from Heaven.
Pen

Re: The Fool

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 20:05
by Pen
An interesting and rather doleful Fool I hadn't seen before, from Manners, Customs, and Dress During the Middle Ages, and During the Renaissance Period by Paul Lacroix from: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/10940/10 ... 0940-h.htm

Here's the image - I couldn't change the png file even in Photoshop, and it seems that the site won't display png files

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/10940/10 ... fig175.png

There's some interesting text about jugglers and fools, also card games, but no mention of tarot.

Pen

Re: The Fool

Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 20:28
by robert
Pen wrote:An interesting and rather doleful Fool I hadn't seen before, from Manners, Customs, and Dress During the Middle Ages, and During the Renaissance Period by Paul Lacroix from: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/10940/10 ... 0940-h.htm

Here's the image - I couldn't change the png file even in Photoshop, and it seems that the site won't display png files

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/10940/10 ... fig175.png

There's some interesting text about jugglers and fools, also card games, but no mention of tarot.

Pen
Hmmmm. .png seems to work for me.

Image


and scaled using the

I think we have to be careful that the tags don't have any spaces or returns after the URL. I'm guessing that might have been the problem?? But, yeah, I checked the settings and .png is supposedly allowed.

Thanks again Pen for all the time you have been putting into these threads, they're wonderful, and your contribution is much appreciated.