Re: Use of Tarot de Marseille as a divinatory tool ???
Posted: 17 May 2009, 18:06
For me, I believe it is my own personal bias that gets in the way of seeing the usefulness of these ideas. I am getting past it, thankfully, but some kind of a block still remains. And to be honest with myself, it is the incongruity of a system that tells us "what is moral" or what is the higher ground that we should strive for...while it is busy hiding or keeping in plain sight some of the worst crimes the world has seen. The Church has become something so unholy, something so not in a position to tell anyone how to live, ever. Not that I am saying anything we do not already know...but this is what gets in my way of trying to embrace the morality tale in the cards, even though I know it is good and useful (and would probably lead to a longer healthier life) to do the simple things laid out in it.EnriqueEnriquez wrote: You get the idea. I also pointed out that, besides the specific virtues depicted in the trump cycle, each one of these images possess attributes that could be worth imitating at some point i our lives. So, what I was wondering if is someone finds that useful, or if we can see the acknowledgment of these ideas as distinctive of reading with the Tarot de Marseille (or for that matters, any pre-Gébelin deck). I also wonder if we feel uncomfortable about this because the ideas in themselves or because they have a Christian origin/orientation. What makes the ideas useless: their content or our bias?
But, it's a sticky subject...on a slippery slope.... what would be an example of helping a client to do the "right" (or as EE called it earlier, the "beautiful") thing? Is it as simple as trying to dissuade him/her from committing a vengeful act? It would be very difficult to attempt to morally guide a client who asked for a reading on his/her illicit affair...you'd just have to do the reading and accept the spot the client is in at the moment.... I am not sure how that would ever really come up though, an instance where I'd want (or feel morally qualified) to guide someone to do the right thing....
I am also not sure what all I'd consider moral or immoral. Too many gray areas and not enough stark black and white for me to make a judgment call. There are the obvious ones, the no brainers, like mugging the elderly and infirm is not such a moral act....crimes against children...but what about a guy supplementing his income by taking some money here and there from the gigantic company he works for...which is a sleazy earth raping company not paying him enough to even insure his family etc etc...is siphoning off of the top of their pile of loot an immoral act...or is working for them in the first place the immoral act? Or how about a lawyer who works for the interests of the logging companies who want to rid northern California of their oldest redwood forests, is his occupation more morally sound compared to a prostitute?
I dunno. I'd like to discuss the real life scenarios in which this might actually come into play.