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S'OK, hoo, I didn't mind... (%) Thoughtful of Marco though... @};-

Marco wrote:
Pen's discovery of the connection between Etteilla III and this book is really great! I think it would make an excellent subject for an IPCS paper :)
I think I'll leave that to someone more suited to writing papers than yours truly...:)

I do so hope the Castello dei Tarocchi is translated into English sometime soonish.

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I made some research about Hartmann Schedel, the major author of the Schedel'sche Weltchronik, especially under the aspect, if he had something to do with playing cards. He had.



This one for instance came from him, a card by Master E.S.
In the possession of Hartmann Schedel had been a playing card of Master E. S. (copperplate engraving). He had a graphic collection, perhaps he was the first intensive picture (especially engraving) collector.

http://books.google.com/books?id=oeQxUX ... e&q=geiler kaysersberg kartenspiel&f=false

The following notes, that there were more than one playing card in his collection:
He pasted his pictures into books. Unluckily his original arrangements were often later destroyed.

http://books.google.com/books?id=X7yajG ... q=hartmann schedel spielkarten&f=false

One of the Murner games (that from 1502) presented the emperor, arch bishops and dukes (totally 12 persons) in the same manner as the Chronik at p. 183/184 (there 8 persons at top and 4 shields in the center before the emperor without person).

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The deck had 120 cards plus a herold (so 121) in 10x12 structure.
This is - after Etteilla III and the new old Nurremberg deck of 1493 - the 3rd deck, which somehow relates to Hartmann Schedel or his Chronik ... beside the cards, which survived only, cause Hartmann Schedel pasted them in books. Actually I don't know, which cards this were (beside the one given above, which is exclusively mentioned).

http://books.google.com/books?id=Q1FbB5 ... &q&f=false

This presented codex seems to have been in Hartmann Schedels collection ...
It contains picture rows to memorize playing cards at folio 31-35 ... at each page are 6 cards and each page is noted by a short verse, which served as a memory help. A example is given:

Leb, berr und wildes schwein
krutzherr, jeger, krancks mendlin

likely presenting 6 picture, each with a name.

So there should be something like 60, 54 or 48 pictures (?).
The title of the Codex refers to memory techniques: "Gedächtniskunst" by Bernhard Hirschvelder. The author and Hartmann Schedel had been both in Nördlingen in 1473-76, it's believed, that Schedel then got this edition. Schedel had been also book collector and had a proud library of more than 650 books. All this went later (after some time) to the Bavarian library.

http://books.google.com/books?id=v6Bmlw ... en&f=false

I never have seen the playing card pictures of this codex consciously, I wonder, what they are.

Well, this is all very interesting and I hope, I find more.

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Hartmann Schedel himself, a picture in his own collection.
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Huck, this is quite an amazing development to this thread ! The author of the Weltchronik had something to do with cards. Yet the Eitella III deck was mid 19th C.

I wonder what the nature of Schedel's relationship to cards is ?

The mnemonic connection is very interesting. I am unable to do much research myself in this thread, being stuck with English only. But I am anxious to see what's next in this unfolding discovery.
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The skeleton card caught my attention. Anyway, when I tried to look for Il Castello dei Tarocchi, I only found this:

"Il Castello dei Tarocchi" appeared in August 2010. It was intended to accompany a Tarot exhibition in Turin in July 2010 in the Borgo e Rocca Medioevale, which once had been constructed 1884 and served in the Exposition Mondiale in Turin 1911 as a Museum. However, some unlucky technical conditions made the exhibition impossible. The essays present topics of six centuries Tarot history and are accompanied by more than 500 pictures.

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