robert wrote:Even the leaves don't bother me much, I think the girdle on the image that Ross found is a damn good match, and it is possible that even the "earliest Tarot de Marseille decks" that we have are already late enough that that detail was not understood and was seen as leaves rather than a girdle.
Again with the 'I don't understand it so it must a copyists error' And this from a class A with distinction student !(congratulations btw). I do find your tendency to dismiss anything that does not fit your paradigm as a copyist error and Ross's to dismiss such stuff as decoration, to dismiss what is there in favour of what you would prefer to be there, particular weak points of your arguments.
If it is meant to be a representation of Christ, which makes sense of much of the iconography and context, then the presence of leaves I think probably a fully intentional allusion to Christ as New Adam; if we follow traditional proof texts of Christ as New Adam we are led to the letters of Paul; to Ephesians, where we also find the sleightster / juggler (kubeios) as a type of Old Adam. So I find it supportive of my interpretation of the Juggler in the Tarot de Marseille sequence to be take as a type of Old Adam; to Phillipines, where Christ is fashioned as a Man, humbles himself as a servant, and in death is exalted as Lord God (kurios)- so the sequence is bookended by the kubeios and the kurios (the name of G-d used specifically of Christ as exalted above all, as risen Lord and as judge). From Earthly Man to Heavenly Man.
SteveM
1 Corinthians 15:40 also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial one, and the of the terrestrial another.
1 Corinthians 15:41 one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for star differeth from star in glory.
1 Corinthians 15:42 So also the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1 Corinthians 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam a quickening spirit.
1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man of the earth, earthy: the second man the Lord from heaven.
1 Corinthians 15:48 As the earthy, such they also that are earthy: and as the heavenly, such they also that are heavenly.
1 Corinthians 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.