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Re: Joseph Henri Rochias ( 1816 )

#11 by EUGIM
Robert : So the deck we are looking at images from, at least according to my book, is not J.H. Rochias, but rather Jacques Rochias fils from 1782.

-Of course could be the same mould !
Just may be and worth an investigation !
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Re: Joseph Henri Rochias ( 1816 )

#12 by robert
EUGIM wrote:Robert,your words were very interesting.
Regarding to Noblet,I sincerely don t guess what those red spots are.

-Insist about Bourlion when you talks about the shape of the wings,more closer than Conver,just I think.
BOURLION - XV.jpg
*The shape and measurement of the genitals are also much closer.
Yes, that's what I was saying last night... that Tarot de Marseille I and Tarot de Marseille II have different styles of wings and for sure the Rochias is like the Tarot de Marseille II there, (and in most of the cards).

I like this card very much, I wonder why it is so different?
The Tarot will lose all its vitality for one who allows himself to be side-tracked by its pedantry. - Aleister Crowley

Re: Joseph Henri Rochias ( 1816 )

#13 by robert
EUGIM wrote:Robert : So the deck we are looking at images from, at least according to my book, is not J.H. Rochias, but rather Jacques Rochias fils from 1782.

-Of course could be the same mould !
Just may be and worth an investigation !
No, they're not. They are different. I can see both of them right in front of me and the J.H. is not from the same mould.

I do think the J.H. IS from the same mould of #2 deck, also by Jacques Rochais fils, but unknown date sometime in late 18th century.
The Tarot will lose all its vitality for one who allows himself to be side-tracked by its pedantry. - Aleister Crowley

Re: Joseph Henri Rochias ( 1816 )

#14 by robert
Your Star is also from Deck #1 by Jacques.

Notice the 5 pointed yellow start instead of typical 8 pointed star? JH has the typical 8 pointed star.

Here is Jacques Rochias and the Chosson.


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The Tarot will lose all its vitality for one who allows himself to be side-tracked by its pedantry. - Aleister Crowley

Re: Joseph Henri Rochias ( 1816 )

#19 by robert
I keep thinking this is connected to the "Swiss Tarot de Marseille", something Kenji said a few years ago. I'll see if I can find it. I think the JPP might be someone named Proiche or something like that. My memory is going. #-o
The Tarot will lose all its vitality for one who allows himself to be side-tracked by its pedantry. - Aleister Crowley
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