I think it s no a childish game,like to see who spit most farther as possible than the rest...
If Vieville deck is really reversed,many things change here.
1-The XXI card of Vieville has only the bull and the lion inverted,so not the angel and the eagle.
2-For example as you know in the case of the tdp also the figures at cards LE MAT or FOV,XIII and XV all walks towards to the left.
So must I suppose that the tdp also is a reversed deck ????
3-Regarding to engraving of course Durer was the pinnacle of it.
So I think it is unnecessary at not least free,cheaply and clumsy as you said,do a comparison with ours appreciate of "ours engravers".
They were clumsy ? /Ok,but theirs intention was not to make a piece of art,even I think the Conver deck is a decent and a beautiful one.
Theirs intention as you said was to do a deck to play cards,not less than this.
4-ROFL !!! -You said: "They were clumsy, and more important, woodcarving is a lot less precise than a copper-plate engraving. It was also cheaper and faster."
Certainly your knowledge about Art History is very childish,too "Salvat" collectable encyclopedia,Wikipedia fast reference to post here... /Very ready made,very fast food knowledge.
And for God sake !!! - This really stink ...
I was Art Teacher for 30 years and I never heard such ignorant conclusion,believe me Enrique.
And I regret too much to say this to you like this way.
But you was too unnecessary sarcastic here... ( "What’s next? Trying to map the emotional state of these cardmakers at the time they engraved their decks? " )
All said by you thanks by a ready-thought-stupidity
5-Regarding the III card I think it is important what lamort brought here.
He showed not less that in both cases the Empress is looking straight to us,as not seen in the others decks cases.
For example helps to explain the closer antiquity of both decks in comparison with the next decks ahead.
Also lamort showed that Vieville followed the pattern of the eagle head,this regarding the supposed reversed thesis of the deck.
6-Yes,I think you are missing a lot here my friend...
For example you also ignore the work of Jacoppo de Barbari from whom Durer learned too much in his trip to Italy (also it was easy for because I made it easy for you,you will find it a Wiki-ready-Pedia)
http://www.mfa.org/collections/search_a ... ll_start=1
7-Btw,Goya did his Caprichos on Aquatint,his style is lesser naturalistic than Durer,is he clumsy ???
Are you pairing skillful with the media to work ? / I expect it not please...
*Well as a gift for Easter receive this example of engraving did by Hans Baldung :
(Could be easy to find for you,because it is at Wikipedia...)
May be is not too perfect line engraving one,but depicts the image message I want to send to you in this sacred day...
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... 0826155011
The Universe is like a Mamushka.