Schoen's astrological calendar (1515)

#1
In “The Encyclopedia of Tarot”, v.II, p.157, Kaplan, quoting Robert O'Neill, presents a 1515 engraving by Erhard Schoen. I found a 2003 comment by Michael J. Hurst about this image:
1515 Germany.

Edward Schoen, a German cardmaker, made a woodcut nativity
calendar for a Leonhard Reymann. The calendar is in the form
of a wheel, with a landscape at the hub, a circle of the seven
planetary deities, a circle of the twelve zodiacal
constellations, and an outermost circle of images representing
the twelve houses. Several images from that outside ring show
subjects also included in the Tarot trumps, such as a wheel, a
reaper, an emperor, a pope, two children playing, and an image
similar to the Lover card in some Tarot de Marseille decks. A figure in
stocks is analogous to the Hanged Man, a punished criminal.
"The resemblance between the houses of the zodiac and several
cards of the tarot indicate that the calendar may have been
modeled after extant tarot decks...." (K II:157, quoting
Robert V. ONeill.)
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Considering that Schoen is identified as a cardmaker, the
similarities do suggest a connection between some of the Tarot
images and some of the astrological houses in a particular
chart at least in the eyes of one sixteenth century German
artist. Kaplan also quotes O'Neill as saying, "the calendar
proves a correlation between tarot and astrology", but O'Neill
is not quoted as explaining what that correlation might be, or
how this calendar proves it. The images in question do not
show a close iconographic correspondence with any particular
Tarot deck. The subject matter in question is some of the most
common in late Medieval and Renaissance art: the emperor and
pope, a wheel, a skeletal reaper, and two children playing,
can be used to illustrate an endless number of things other
than astrology, and their adoption here is hardly sufficient
to demonstrate that the Tarot images and sequence were somehow
based on astrology. Whatever lesser "correlation" might exist
seems ill-defined, and scarcely proved, by this calendar. Many
questions are raised which could only be approached with
additional information about Schoen and his work.
Kaplan also notes that “the picture as a whole resembles the World, with a figure reigning over the circle and four beings in the corners”.
On ATF, Kwaw has noted that “the depiction of the sign Cancer is very much like that of the moon card, more crayfish than crablike”.

Here are the details of the images of the 12 Houses, with textual descriptions taken from a Renaissance essay about Geomancy erroneously attributed to Einrich Cornelius Agrippa.
William Lilly's longer descriptions of the twelve houses are available here.

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1st House: The first House sheweth the person of the Querent, as often as a question shall be proposed concerning himself of his own matters, or any thing appertaining to him. And this House declareth the Judgement of the life, form, state, condition, habit, disposition, form and figure, and of the colour of men.

2nd House: The second House containeth the Judgement of substance, riches, poverty, gain and loss, good fortune and evil fortune: and of accidents in substance, as theft, loss or negligence.

3rd House: The third House signifieth brethren, sisters, and Collaterals in blood: It judgeth of small journeys, and fidelities of men.

4th House: The fourth House signifies fathers and grandfathers, patrimony and inheritance, possessions, buildings, fields, treasure, and things hidden: It giveth also the description of those who want any thing by theft, losing, or negligence.
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5th House: The fifth House giveth judgement of Legats, Messengers, Rumours, News; of Honour, and of accidents after death: and of Questions that may be propounded concerning women with childe, or creatures pregnant.

6th House: The sixth House giveth Judgement of infirmities, and medicines; of familiars and servants; of cattel and domestick animals.

7th House: The seventh House signifies wedlock, whoredom, and fornication; rendreth Judgement of friends, strifes, and controversies; and of matters acted before Judges.

8th House: The eighth hath signification of death, and of those things which come by death of Legats, and hereditaments; of the dowry or portion of a wife.
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9th House: The ninth House sheweth journeys, faith, and constancie; dreams, divine sciences, and Religion.

10th House: The tenth House hath signification of Honours, and of Magisterial Offices.

11th House: The eleventh House signifies friends, and the substance of Princes.
(Guido Bonatti writes that "the 11th house is the house of fortune, faith and hope" - "undecima domus est domus fortune, fiducie atque spei")

12th House: The twelfth House signifies enemies, servants, imprisonment, and misfortune, and whatsoever evil can happen besides death and sickness, the Judgements whereof are to be required in the sixth House, and in the eighth.
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Re: Schoen's astrological calendar (1515)

#2
Thanks for bringing these to our attention, Marco. Here is what I think.

1st house: someone giving birth. Correlates to the Fool, someone totally ignorant.

2nd house: artisan. Correlates to Bagatto, someone using a skill for material gain.

3rd house :one person in religious garb reading to another, one or both perhaps a nun. Correlates to Popess, who always holds a book and is dressed in religious garb. House of family, traditionally the domain of women, and "fidelities", i.e. faith.

4th house: plow. Two-wheeled pulled vehicle correlates to Chariot.

5th house: children playing. Correlates to Sun card, if the image is like the Marseille, in which one of the people has his hand on the other's back.

6th house; person in a hospital. Correlates to Tower card. Life-threatening disaster, yet affording an opportunity to renew one's connection to God. (Especially fits one interpretation of the early Marseille images, where the smoke goes up to the sun in response to the ray coming down.)

7th house, Marriage. Correlates to Love card.

8th house. Death. Correlates to Death card.

9th house. Pope. Correlates to Pope card.

10th hosue. Emperor. Correlates to Emperor card.

11th house. Wheel. Correlates to Wheel of Fortune card.

12th House. Man in stocks. House of imprisonment, i.e. punishment. Correlates to Hanged Man card.

What is striking to me is how in the 5th and 6th house, the images correlate with the Marseille-style cards better than with the known 15th century images. That suggests to me that the Marseille-style images might date back to the early 16th century.

Re: Schoen's astrological calendar (1515)

#3
In the preceding post, I neglected to state how the Renaissance conceived each of the Houses. There was some variation, but I think some generalizations can be aplied. My sources are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_%28astrology%29, http://www.renaissanceastrology.com/houses.html,
http://www.renaissanceastrology.com/housesalbiruni.html. For the Schoen horoscope, see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... trauss.jpg.)

The relationship of the tarot image to the astrological House is either visual or conceptual or both. To me these are interesting not as an application of the tarot to astrology (which they are not, without further information pertaining to the zodiacal signs and planets in each house) but rather as giving clues to how the tarot looked and was conceptualized in this time and place.

1. House of life: image of a woman giving birth. Newborn is an image of ignorance and so the Fool.
2. House of livelihood and material well-being: image of a cook or artisan at his table. Similar visually to Bagat image.
3. House of brothers and communication: person in clerical dress reading to another, perhaps a woman, perhaps his teacher; similar visually to woman with book on Popess card.
4. House of parents and Family: old man showing young man how to use a plow with two large round wheels. Similar visually to the Chariot card.
5. House of children and pleasure. Two children with arms linked, one on a hobby horse. Similar visually to the Sun card.
6. House of Health and Sickness. Man in a sick bed being visited by two others. This one I relate conceptually to the Tower card. The card shows lightning and other phenomena of nature (hail or earthquake) bringing misfortune and fear. "Maison-Dieu" sometimes referred to a hospice for the ill and dying.
7. House of Marriage and Partnerships. Priest marrying a crowned man and a woman. Corresponds to Love card.
8. House of Death. Shows a skeleton with a sickle, as in Death card.
9. House of Religion. Shows a Pope, as in Pope card.
10. House of Social Position, Government. Shows an Emperor, as in Emperor card.
11. House of Good Fortune. Shows a Wheel, as in Wheel of Fortune card.
12. House of Enemies, Imprisonment. Shows a man in the stocks. Similar conceptually to Hanged Man.

The similarity of the image for House 5 to the Tarot de Marseille Sun card suggests to me that the Tarot de Marseille image of the Sun card was in existence before 1515. Also, relating to House 12, it suggests that "Maison-Dieu" as a hospice may have been a title for the Tower card by then; it was originally called "arrow".

Re: Schoen's astrological calendar (1515)

#4
The whole riddle of Schoen's representation might be, that Schoen knew a little bit of Tarot cards ... and implanted some of them in his calendar.
I think, only one artistic deck is known by him, likely one cannot take him as a normal "cardmaker". Between many other stuff he also once made a playing card deck.

http://www.zeno.org/Kunstwerke/A/Schoen ... rafiken/11

Between other art here are some of his playing cards. He uses own suits, or at least "rare suits".
http://images.zeno.org/Kunstwerke/I/big/HL31262a.jpg

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An old man leaving, thinking, that everything is safe at home, a woman with a "Keuschheitsgürtel" and the key to it in her hand, a young man approaching and lucky to see her and the key. In the background the suit sign, it's a three of vine, perhaps associated by Italian "cups".

Well, another version of Lancelot ... :-)
Huck
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#5
Below is an illustration from William Parron's 1502 Almanach (which famously contains with wildly inaccurate prognosstications concerning King Henry VII and his family)-

From "Liber de Optimo fato Henrici Eboraci ducis et optimorum ipsius parentum" (The Book of the Excellent Fortunes of Henry Duke of York and his Parents), 1502 by Gulielmus Parronus Placentinus, an Italian astrologer known in England as William Parry -

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http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminated ... llID=39065
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According to notes of edition at the British Musuem:

Miniature of the horoscope diagram for the day in which the world was created, including a world map within an astrological chart and personifications of winds, surrounded by 12 triangles with symbolic scenes representing aspects of life associated with the twelve astrological houses.

The world map is a loose copy of the world map printed by Francesco Rosselli in Florence in 1492-3, which was copied from Henricus Martellus map (Additional 15760 f. 69).

Another presentation copy of the same text, illuminated by the same artist, and addressed to prince Henry, future Henry VIII, is Bibliothèque Nationale de France, ms. Lat. 6276.

We see some similarities with Schoen's - skeleton with the 8th house (house of death) the pope with the 9th (house of God), the King/Emperor at 10th house) - whereas Schoen has stocks for the 12th, Parron's has a man stabbed in the back (12th house of treachery), a prison and lifestock (house of great cattle, horses, oxen, elephants), both stocks and treason we may associate with the hanged man; the 5th house of pleasure, games shows people round table, etc etc At the centre of both an aimage we may associate with the world (or the city/place of birth)

- if you look at the larger figure the signs and their degrees are in Gold on the house lines: showing the planets in their signs of exaltation--

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Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different.
T. S. Eliot

Re: Schoen's astrological calendar (1515)

#6
I hadn't noticed your post until recently, Steve; it is a nice find. It suggests to me the possibility that when the tarot images were seen astrologically, it was not in terms of the zodiac (for which we have no evidence) but in terms of the houses (for which we now have two bits of evidence). The question then is, how would the other members of the sequence have been seen in such an astrological interpretation: i.e. Empress, Justice, Hermit, Fortitude, Temperance, Devil, Star, Moon, Judgment? There is no reason why there should be an answer; but it is worth asking.

Re: Schoen's astrological calendar (1515)

#7
Alain Bougearel is unable to log into THF either using his existing username and password or new ones. But he has a comment that needs to be posted here, which he posted at http://www.traditiontarot.com/viewtopic ... 666#p13666, on May 20, 2017. The post is as follows:

J'ai souligné la parenté des 16 Honneurs disposés arithmologiquement avec les 12 demeures zodiacales et les 4 Angles du Ciel :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Hg6j ... FmdTg/view

Steve Mangan sur THF vient de faire une trouvaille intéressante :
viewtopic.php?f=14&p=19525#p19485

Il s'agit d'un calendrier astrologique datant de 1515 mais faisant référence avec haute probalité à au moins 1492-3 Florence

Miniature of the horoscope diagram for the day in which the world was created, including a world map within an astrological chart and personifications of winds, surrounded by 12 triangles with symbolic scenes representing aspects of life associated with the twelve astrological houses.
The world map is a loose copy of the world map printed by Francesco Rosselli in Florence in 1492-3, which was copied from Henricus Martellus map (Additional 15760 f. 69).
Origin: England, S. E (London)
http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminated ... llID=39065

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Stev Mangan remarque :
"The world map is a loose copy of the world map printed by Francesco Rosselli in Florence in 1492-3, which was copied from Henricus Martellus map (Additional 15760 f. 69).
Another presentation copy of the same text, illuminated by the same artist, and addressed to prince Henry, future Henry VIII, is Bibliothèque Nationale de France, ms. Lat. 6276.
We see some similarities with Schoen's - skeleton with the 8th house (house of death) the pope with the 9th (house of God), the King/Emperor at 10th house) - whereas Schoen has stocks for the 12th, Parron's has a man stabbed in the back (12th house of treachery), a prison and lifestock (house of great cattle, horses, oxen, elephants), both stocks and treason we may associate with the hanged man; the 5th house of pleasure, games shows people round table, etc etc At the centre of both an aimage we may associate with the world (or the city/place of birth)
- if you look at the larger figure the signs and their degrees are in Gold on the house lines: showing the planets in their signs of exaltation--"

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Pour ma part, je ne peux que noter la parenté d'avec la disposition arithmologique des 16 Honneurs : 12+4
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Le Carré des Honneurs : (1+3) x 4 =16
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Rappel ; étude arithmologique
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Hg6j ... FmdTg/view

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