Re: Here is a Game of "Prints"
72Hm. Where does Rome fit into this? Did they move a church from Jerusalem to Rome?
Re: Here is a Game of "Prints"
731494... well tis the year Casola went on his pilgrimage to Jerusalem, and in which the French King Charles VIII crossed the Alps into Italy... not sure either of those facts are of relevance here though:Pdebra wrote:So, Savoy, France, 1494. Does that help us?
Re: Here is a Game of "Prints"
74Meanwhile, I look on a map of ancient Israel and between Jerusalem and Nazareth I see nothing except maybe Bethany.
Re: Here is a Game of "Prints"
75First, the earlier one:
Print "A"
A Monstrance Held By Two Angels
Basel, 1495-1500
These angels hold a monstrance which is a vessel in which the Eucharistic host is often kept.
A similar cut appeared in "Cura Pastoralis" published in Basel, 1498, by Michel Furter.
OP Note:
This is a pretty straight forward image.
A monstrance is a vessel that often holds the "body of Christ".
This is related in concept to "the church" as a vessel.
The monstrance is in the form of a church building. (It is a "model" of a church.)
So the "connection" between A and B is simply that two angels are carrying a small "building" in each image.
Yet they differ in meaning, as we shall see....
Print "A"
A Monstrance Held By Two Angels
Basel, 1495-1500
These angels hold a monstrance which is a vessel in which the Eucharistic host is often kept.
A similar cut appeared in "Cura Pastoralis" published in Basel, 1498, by Michel Furter.
OP Note:
This is a pretty straight forward image.
A monstrance is a vessel that often holds the "body of Christ".
This is related in concept to "the church" as a vessel.
The monstrance is in the form of a church building. (It is a "model" of a church.)
So the "connection" between A and B is simply that two angels are carrying a small "building" in each image.
Yet they differ in meaning, as we shall see....
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I am not a cannibal.
Re: Here is a Game of "Prints"
76Print "B"
The Transportation Of The Holy House Of Loreto
Savoy, France, 1494
This virtually unknown woodcut celebrates the miraculous transportation of the little house, supposedly the Virgin's, from its original setting in Nazareth to its present location in the town of Loreto, near Ancona in northeastern Italy, an event that took place on Dec. 10, 1294. The house is now a chapel enclosed in the Chiesa della Santa Casa, built in 1465. The typeset inscription may be paraphrased as follows:
"By the angels of paradise this church was transported without its foundations, which are still in Nazareth, to this place. It took a long time, but this was of no importance to the Christians of the vicinity who gave no heed to people deprived of good sense."
The woodcut was probably executed in honor of the 200th anniversary of the miracle, and the small "CC" in the lower left would seem to verify this guess. Stylistic considerations give equal support. Stylistic similarities to several other woodcuts from the region also support the attribution to Savoy.
OP Note:
I find this utterly charming.
(And then some.)
The Transportation Of The Holy House Of Loreto
Savoy, France, 1494
This virtually unknown woodcut celebrates the miraculous transportation of the little house, supposedly the Virgin's, from its original setting in Nazareth to its present location in the town of Loreto, near Ancona in northeastern Italy, an event that took place on Dec. 10, 1294. The house is now a chapel enclosed in the Chiesa della Santa Casa, built in 1465. The typeset inscription may be paraphrased as follows:
"By the angels of paradise this church was transported without its foundations, which are still in Nazareth, to this place. It took a long time, but this was of no importance to the Christians of the vicinity who gave no heed to people deprived of good sense."
The woodcut was probably executed in honor of the 200th anniversary of the miracle, and the small "CC" in the lower left would seem to verify this guess. Stylistic considerations give equal support. Stylistic similarities to several other woodcuts from the region also support the attribution to Savoy.
OP Note:
I find this utterly charming.
(And then some.)
I am not a cannibal.
Re: Here is a Game of "Prints"
77Well good grief. No connection between the two, and yet they seem so similar to my eyes.
Re: Here is a Game of "Prints"
78What a great story!OnePotato wrote:Print "B"
The Transportation Of The Holy House Of Loreto
Savoy, France, 1494
This virtually unknown woodcut celebrates the miraculous transportation of the little house, supposedly the Virgin's, from its original setting in Nazareth to its present location in the town of Loreto, near Ancona in northeastern Italy, an event that took place on Dec. 10, 1294. The house is now a chapel enclosed in the Chiesa della Santa Casa, built in 1465. The typeset inscription may be paraphrased as follows:
"By the angels of paradise this church was transported without its foundations, which are still in Nazareth, to this place. It took a long time, but this was of no importance to the Christians of the vicinity who gave no heed to people deprived of good sense."
The woodcut was probably executed in honor of the 200th anniversary of the miracle, and the small "CC" in the lower left would seem to verify this guess. Stylistic considerations give equal support. Stylistic similarities to several other woodcuts from the region also support the attribution to Savoy.
OP Note:
I find this utterly charming.
(And then some.)
Some Tarot Connections
79Hi, OnePotato,
The Ace of Cups: Christian Content in Tarot
http://pre-gebelin.blogspot.com/2007/11 ... -cups.html
A Florentine Allegory of the Lord's Mercy
http://pre-gebelin.blogspot.com/2009/03 ... mercy.html
Best regards,
Michael
The Ace of Cups in Tarot was routinely depicted in a fashion that would be immediately recognizable as a Christian icon of one sort or another.OnePotato wrote:Print "A"
A Monstrance Held By Two Angels
Basel, 1495-1500
These angels hold a monstrance which is a vessel in which the Eucharistic host is often kept.
A similar cut appeared in "Cura Pastoralis" published in Basel, 1498, by Michel Furter.
The Ace of Cups: Christian Content in Tarot
http://pre-gebelin.blogspot.com/2007/11 ... -cups.html
I know that Tarot connections are not the point of this thread, but the Virgin of Loreto has a rather dramatic one -- she is sometimes depicted wearing the papal tiara. Searching around on the Internet will turn up multiple examples of that aspect of the Loreto Virgin and a related popess, the Virgin of the Rosary.OnePotato wrote:Print "B"
The Transportation Of The Holy House Of Loreto
Savoy, France, 1494
This virtually unknown woodcut celebrates the miraculous transportation of the little house, supposedly the Virgin's, from its original setting in Nazareth to its present location in the town of Loreto, near Ancona in northeastern Italy, an event that took place on Dec. 10, 1294.
A Florentine Allegory of the Lord's Mercy
http://pre-gebelin.blogspot.com/2009/03 ... mercy.html
Best regards,
Michael
We are either dwarfs standing on the shoulders of giants, or we are just dwarfs.
Re: Some Tarot Connections
80Hello Michael.mjhurst wrote:....I know that Tarot connections are not the point of this thread....
That's interesting.
Why do you think that?
Thank you for adding your links.
I am not a cannibal.