This thread has been split from several topics all discussing the same basic premise.. that the Tarot de Marseille is a work of Gothic rather than Renaissance art...

I apologise for the haphazard co-mingling, buy you can only imagine what it was like when spread out over several threads.

Sorry but I think as JMD if I not understood him wrong,that there isn t a closest link between Tarot de Marseille and the Italians ancestors.

1-Italians deck prior to Tarot de Marseille have a clear Renaissance iconography,instead of Tarot de Marseille which has a clear Medieval one.
2-Of course there is a link with the virtues but "Frenchified".
For just one example see the Temperance card,see his Angel.
Aside a symbolism link,iconography understood why have any prior italian precedent.Strictly on an image sense I mean.
3-So again I remark here,french engravers rework all the iconography.
Let s see the X card.
As Visconti deck show to us the chariot goes clearly somewhere,instead the case of the Tarot de Marseille where it goes anywhere.As both wheels "blocked" shows.

EUGIM wrote:1-Italians deck prior to Tarot de Marseille have a clear Renaissance iconography,instead of Tarot de Marseille which has a clear Medieval one.

Iconography or style?

Iconography strongly Medieval,going farthest = Gothic

OK. I am kind of slow, so, help me out here: between a painting of Christ entering Jerusalem by Ensor and another one by Giotto, what changes: Iconography or style?

Best,

EE

Here is a matter of style.
As I can say that Noblet is as Picasso in the same way that Chosson is as Matisse.

Ah...

Thanks.

In another thread, it was suggested that the Tarot de Marseille was more typically Gothic than Renaissance in it's style of artwork.

What do you think?

Nice exhibition of 15th and 16th century woodcuts here:

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/heavenlycra ... -home.html

Some 15th century woodcuts:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categ ... y_woodcuts

Some 16th century woodcuts:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categ ... y_woodcuts

17th:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categ ... y_woodcuts

18th:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categ ... y_woodcuts

Those are wonderful links Steve, thanks for that.

There is so much to wade through there I'm not sure how I would answer the original question!