Tarot de Marseille Type II: The Ouroboros Project
Posted: 11 Oct 2016, 18:55
Welcome Dear Readers.
I decided to establish a thread based on the scribd file that brought me here in 2014:
TRUE TAROT by „C“
https://www.scribd.com/document/68581697/TRUE-TAROT
So what you will read and see here is meant as an explanation of what you could read and see there – but you didn't.
This OP is about the preliminaries that are essential to understand what you will witness here.
The reading conditions on scribd have changed for the worse for readers who are not signed in so I made first a Dropbox upload with the scribd PDF that I had converted into 270 JPGs – page by page:
TRUE TAROT by „C“
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y0gkeha4q2a8 ... 1rTDa?dl=0
The image quality did suffer though through the conversion process and through the scribd link the original is available for reading for anyone and for download for members there.
The first stage of our investigation here is based on the pages 6 to 14 of the scribd PDF:
The OUROBOROS Project - 1 (excerpt of 9 from the above complete 270 pages)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cjptbzzsw6f0 ... J_M9a?dl=0
Of course this topic here is connected to my other threads and comments here and on Aeclectic.
Foremost naturally the main topic is The SECRET and how to get a grip on it:
Here:
Tarotée - The Back-Door To The Secret
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1044
The RED MAN of The Visconti-Sforza Tarot (PMB)
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1101
The Visconti-Sforza Tarot in 3-D
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1084
Comments in existing topics:
Cologne exhibition: 3 Magi
starting here:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1047&start=20#p16795
Daphne riddle
starting here:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1108#p17159
Le Tarot arithmologique - la séquence 1+4+7+10 = 22
starting here:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1102#p16917
Aeclectic:
The Visconti-Sforza Tarot in 3-D
(different version – and please don't get irritated by Alta )
http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=250020
Comments in existing topics:
Scans of Tourcaty, Lequart, Conver Bicentennial and Chosson
starting here:
http://www.tarotforum.net/showpost.php? ... stcount=15
Le Mat
(by jmd – again - please : don't pay to much attention to Alta and do not let get yourself distracted by kwaw )
starting here:
http://www.tarotforum.net/showpost.php? ... stcount=78
I see the necessity for explaining C's report on scribd because I am aware of the discrepancy between clicks here on the Tarotée thread which did gain nearly 28.000 views in 2 years which makes it the 6th most viewed topic in the Unicorn section here of all time so far (and as of yet) – and the clicks on the scribd PDF by „C“ - what were only about 500 – not to mention my own thread PDF for the Tarotée thread here which got only about 200 - in the same timespan.
Just a few weeks ago I came across an Aeclectic topic that brought the dire need to spread this knowledge further to my attention again:
The Pictorial Key and the Fool's Location
http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=180275
There (among other things) the several successions of the Great Secrets are mentioned and discussed without any genuine knowledge of „the how“ and „the why“ - but speculations and assumptions are abundant (and hearsay of course because there is nothing else … )
NO historical Tarot de Marseille pack ever came with a manual the Maître cartier did author as you may very well know and so all is lost for good one (and me too some time ago … ) should assume and explanation is left only for the „experts“ in the field.
Of special interest are the posts by Richard there - and especially this quote from him:
But what IF the pack in itself contains the manual?
„C“ claims – and proves – that this is the case.
I started to add some information to this – but wasn't quite well understood so it seems.
So I'll give it a new shot!
To create an appropriate setting for you I acquired the best scans on the net of a very early edition of the genuine „Ancien Tarot de Marseille“ by Paul Marteau for Grimaud from the early 1930ies - because "C" did advise this deck to be the KEY (as you shall see ... ).
Sumada (Sumada Monsarrat) from Aeclectic produced and made them available from his own collection and I'm entirely grateful for this and his permission to put them to use here because you will see that the colors are very superior to the modern editions!
You may know him from your TV experience – but if not - here is a link so that you can get accustomed to his sometimes unusual but always outstanding ways of putting the facts in a new and revealing perspective to solve a mystery …
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312172/?ref_=nv_sr_3
http://the-watch-series.to/serie/monk
After Mr. Monk did quit his service on the force he continued to work as a private investigator and because he is all about rules and order and correct angles he was quite interested in my project to reveal the common and still disorderly view of The WORLD for all to see HER clearly now from here onward – and he VOLUNTEERED to do it for FREE!
Can you believe THAT?
So let's see …
Here is ... WHAT HAPPENS:
(Like I said above: this is only the opening post and much more will follow – but I thought to give you time to get acquainted with Mr. Monk and me and the source material first – and please be aware that this is not a topic meant for discussion – though you can ask questions of course )
I hope to see you around
Adrian
I decided to establish a thread based on the scribd file that brought me here in 2014:
TRUE TAROT by „C“
https://www.scribd.com/document/68581697/TRUE-TAROT
So what you will read and see here is meant as an explanation of what you could read and see there – but you didn't.
This OP is about the preliminaries that are essential to understand what you will witness here.
The reading conditions on scribd have changed for the worse for readers who are not signed in so I made first a Dropbox upload with the scribd PDF that I had converted into 270 JPGs – page by page:
TRUE TAROT by „C“
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y0gkeha4q2a8 ... 1rTDa?dl=0
The image quality did suffer though through the conversion process and through the scribd link the original is available for reading for anyone and for download for members there.
The first stage of our investigation here is based on the pages 6 to 14 of the scribd PDF:
The OUROBOROS Project - 1 (excerpt of 9 from the above complete 270 pages)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cjptbzzsw6f0 ... J_M9a?dl=0
Of course this topic here is connected to my other threads and comments here and on Aeclectic.
Foremost naturally the main topic is The SECRET and how to get a grip on it:
Here:
Tarotée - The Back-Door To The Secret
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1044
The RED MAN of The Visconti-Sforza Tarot (PMB)
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1101
The Visconti-Sforza Tarot in 3-D
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1084
Comments in existing topics:
Cologne exhibition: 3 Magi
starting here:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1047&start=20#p16795
Daphne riddle
starting here:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1108#p17159
Le Tarot arithmologique - la séquence 1+4+7+10 = 22
starting here:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1102#p16917
Aeclectic:
The Visconti-Sforza Tarot in 3-D
(different version – and please don't get irritated by Alta )
http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=250020
Comments in existing topics:
Scans of Tourcaty, Lequart, Conver Bicentennial and Chosson
starting here:
http://www.tarotforum.net/showpost.php? ... stcount=15
Le Mat
(by jmd – again - please : don't pay to much attention to Alta and do not let get yourself distracted by kwaw )
starting here:
http://www.tarotforum.net/showpost.php? ... stcount=78
I see the necessity for explaining C's report on scribd because I am aware of the discrepancy between clicks here on the Tarotée thread which did gain nearly 28.000 views in 2 years which makes it the 6th most viewed topic in the Unicorn section here of all time so far (and as of yet) – and the clicks on the scribd PDF by „C“ - what were only about 500 – not to mention my own thread PDF for the Tarotée thread here which got only about 200 - in the same timespan.
Just a few weeks ago I came across an Aeclectic topic that brought the dire need to spread this knowledge further to my attention again:
The Pictorial Key and the Fool's Location
http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=180275
There (among other things) the several successions of the Great Secrets are mentioned and discussed without any genuine knowledge of „the how“ and „the why“ - but speculations and assumptions are abundant (and hearsay of course because there is nothing else … )
NO historical Tarot de Marseille pack ever came with a manual the Maître cartier did author as you may very well know and so all is lost for good one (and me too some time ago … ) should assume and explanation is left only for the „experts“ in the field.
Of special interest are the posts by Richard there - and especially this quote from him:
- what describes the facts quite well.Putting the PKT description of The Fool between Judgment and The World is according to Levi's ordering, which apparently was more or less standard among occultists until it was revised by the GD. …
But what IF the pack in itself contains the manual?
„C“ claims – and proves – that this is the case.
I started to add some information to this – but wasn't quite well understood so it seems.
So I'll give it a new shot!
To create an appropriate setting for you I acquired the best scans on the net of a very early edition of the genuine „Ancien Tarot de Marseille“ by Paul Marteau for Grimaud from the early 1930ies - because "C" did advise this deck to be the KEY (as you shall see ... ).
Sumada (Sumada Monsarrat) from Aeclectic produced and made them available from his own collection and I'm entirely grateful for this and his permission to put them to use here because you will see that the colors are very superior to the modern editions!
On top of that I hired The MONK for this investigation and he agreed to the documentation of his exquisite thought processes on this matter.
You may know him from your TV experience – but if not - here is a link so that you can get accustomed to his sometimes unusual but always outstanding ways of putting the facts in a new and revealing perspective to solve a mystery …
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312172/?ref_=nv_sr_3
http://the-watch-series.to/serie/monk
After Mr. Monk did quit his service on the force he continued to work as a private investigator and because he is all about rules and order and correct angles he was quite interested in my project to reveal the common and still disorderly view of The WORLD for all to see HER clearly now from here onward – and he VOLUNTEERED to do it for FREE!
Can you believe THAT?
So let's see …
Here is ... WHAT HAPPENS:
(Like I said above: this is only the opening post and much more will follow – but I thought to give you time to get acquainted with Mr. Monk and me and the source material first – and please be aware that this is not a topic meant for discussion – though you can ask questions of course )
I hope to see you around
Adrian