Re: Trionfi customs 1436 and 1438
31I meant on the "bound pilgrim". Or do you take that as his hairdo?
Not sure which detail you are looking at? It seems like an open "tunic" - comes short of the knees, and then some sort of boots. Perhaps crudely drawn/cut, but I don't see anything particularly unusual. Here's a detail of an odd Petrarchan triumphs - Strozzi 174, Fama, with captives also with arms similarly bound behind, but instead of open in the front, the tunic is slid off one shoulder: Or do you mean that odd "mermaid tail" seemingly attached to the wagon, but one of the "fin's" tips coincides with the rear circumference of the halo, like a veil?
I think maybe Mike is referring to his cap/hair do - the crescent/horn shape coming from the 'skull-cap' part of his hat over his fore-head does also sort of make it look like a wolf/dog head (seeing the crescent/horns shape as the nuzzle of a dog/wolf) - though I'm not sure it was intended to be such (looks more like a crescent shape to me, rather than the mouth of a wolf, though I can see it as a wolf-dog head too - and sort of 'flip' between seeing it either way) :
Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote: 03 Jul 2019, 16:30 It could be that the bound figure represents Samson, with his hair shorn (it looks like a tonsure). This one shows a bearded figure, thus more evidently Samson -
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The straight line behind his head I take to be just a cliff face, a continuation of the same thing behind his back.
Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote: 03 Jul 2019, 16:30 It could be that the bound figure represents Samson, with his hair shorn (it looks like a tonsure). This one shows a bearded figure, thus more evidently Samson -
The straight line behind his head I take to be just a cliff face, a continuation of the same thing behind his back.
SteveM wrote: 03 Jul 2019, 10:42 I think maybe Mike is referring to his cap/hair do - the crescent/horn shape coming from the 'skull-cap' part of his hat over his fore-head does also sort of make it look like a wolf/dog head (seeing the crescent/horns shape as the nuzzle of a dog/wolf) - though I'm not sure it was intended to be such (looks more like a crescent shape to me, rather than the mouth of a wolf, though I can see it as a wolf-dog head too - and sort of 'flip' between seeing it either way)
Ross,Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote: 05 Jul 2019, 10:33 Not always bearded.
From a cassone attributed to Zanobi -
From a cassone attributed to the school of Mantegna -
From the single sheet six triumphs -
And I don't see a halo, but part of the landscape in the background.
Steve,SteveM wrote: 05 Jul 2019, 23:30 Since Ross pointed it out, the 'halo' or hat does seem to me more like the background cliff/rock figuration - now that I see it that way, I find it hard to construe it as a halo or part of hat at all... and what I saw as a 'skull-cap' seems obviously a tonsured head, now that it has been pointed out... and Samson fits.