Re: Le Tarot dit "de Charles VI"
Posted: 04 Sep 2018, 10:04
I see.
""The figures shown are those readable, partially or not, at the top of the cards - except for the Hanged Man, where the figure is written at the bottom, 'upside down'. These Roman numerals are drawn in ink and appear slightly after the completion of the cards (first half of the 16th century at the latest)"
There seems to be an incompatability between "slightly after the completion of the cards" and "first half of the 16th century at the latest", unless he were saying that the cards themselves may not have been painted until the first half of the 16th century at the latest.
I had to check the French to make sure, and the translation is good. But in 1984, he still attributed them "Italie du Nord, fin du XVe s." - end of the 15th century.
So he could push the numbering "slightly" if he gave the manufacture to circa 1490, and the writing to any time in the next 50 years. All very vague and unsure, and in his discussion he pushes against the-then Ferrara assumption ("anything not Milan was Ferrara" as he told me used to be the working model) by timidly suggesting Bologna - a move southward, recognizing the A style in it.
But he has clearly settled on circa 1460 and Florence now, so if the numbering is "slightly" later, then it is in nowise after 1500.
""The figures shown are those readable, partially or not, at the top of the cards - except for the Hanged Man, where the figure is written at the bottom, 'upside down'. These Roman numerals are drawn in ink and appear slightly after the completion of the cards (first half of the 16th century at the latest)"
There seems to be an incompatability between "slightly after the completion of the cards" and "first half of the 16th century at the latest", unless he were saying that the cards themselves may not have been painted until the first half of the 16th century at the latest.
I had to check the French to make sure, and the translation is good. But in 1984, he still attributed them "Italie du Nord, fin du XVe s." - end of the 15th century.
So he could push the numbering "slightly" if he gave the manufacture to circa 1490, and the writing to any time in the next 50 years. All very vague and unsure, and in his discussion he pushes against the-then Ferrara assumption ("anything not Milan was Ferrara" as he told me used to be the working model) by timidly suggesting Bologna - a move southward, recognizing the A style in it.
But he has clearly settled on circa 1460 and Florence now, so if the numbering is "slightly" later, then it is in nowise after 1500.