I intend to collect these threads via link at the thread "Collection Playing Cards before 1377 ; theme -1377"
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Jan van Blois, who had playing cards in c. 1365 ...mikeh wrote:Here is another unconfirmed report of playing cards before 1377: Lex Rijnen, ‘Makers of playing-cards in the Netherlands’, Journal of the Playing-Card Society, Vol. IV, no. 2, 1975, pp.34-7 (as cited in Dummett GofT p. 12), on p. 34, which I take from http://askalexander.org/display/22513/T ... =Amsterdam):Dummett could not confirm this reference, but perhaps things are better now.Although card-playing was known in the Northern Netherlands as early as the 14th century (in the accounts
of Jan van Blois, dated c. l365, who owned several manors north of Amsterdam, playing-cards are mentioned) fundamental details about the makers of these hand-made cards and also those of the first wood-cut cards are, up to now, unknown.
Jan II van Blois (?, ca. 1342 - Schoonhoven, 19/05/1381) was graaf van Blois en Dunois (1371-1381), heer van Schoonhoven, Gouda, Beaumont, Chimay, Waarde o.a (1356-1381) en stadhouder van Holland en Zeeland (1359-1360/1362-1363), in afwezigheid van Albrecht van Beieren.
... is likely this man
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_II_d ... 3%A2tillon
The interesting information has Dutch wikipedia. Jan van Blois was in c. 1365 a young man (c. 23 years old), but had had already some function for Albrecht von Bayern ...
The 3rd son Louis of Bavaria, earlier Emperor (1314-1346/47), Albrecht (1436-1404) got possessions in the Netherlands from his mother, Empress Margaret (died 1356).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_ ... of_Hainaut
A real and trusted playing card document from his Netherland court exists from 1378 ...
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=761&p=10875&hilit= ... urg#p10875
And Albrecht is also connected in the playing card document "Ratisbonne 1378" (= Regensburg) by family connections, though Regensburg didn't belong to his personal territory.17 May 1378: "xvij dagen in meye quarten", payments of duke Albrecht I of Niederbayern-Straubing as "count of Hennegau"
23 May 1378: "xxiij dagen in meye" "quarten", payments of duke Albrecht I of Niederbayern-Straubing as "count of Hennegau"
23 Jul 1378: Regensburg "Und spilen mit der quart verpietent mein herren" (prohibition)
Albrecht's "Straubing" isn't included (1372-1392)
Partition 1392, Regensburg belongs clearly to Bayern-München
All from https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayerische_LandesteilungOlder Partition:
3. Juni 1353
Teilung Niederbayerns und der niederländischen Grafschaften nach vierjähriger gemeinschaftlicher Herrschaft
Bayern-Landshut unter Stephan II.
Straubing-Holland unter Wilhelm I. und Albrecht I.
The following map is modified on the base of the map at ...
The document of c. 1365 makes sense, if one compares it with the already accepted documents. Nuremberg (according Huebsch a city, which very early produced playing cards) had good relations to the Emperor court of Louis of Bavaria, if Prague got cards from Nuremberg, then the emperor would have gotten also cards. And naturally also the sons of Louis. Nuremberg got a revolution, when Charles IV declared himself as emperor in 1346, with Louis the Bavarian still living (1347). a counter-rebellion in 1348 had only a short endurance. Albrecht first had his position in Straubing, with the elder brother Wilhelm reigning in the Netherlandish territory. Wilhelm got a mental sickness in 1357, and Albrecht increased his attention on the Northern territories, where he successfully reigned about 50 years. The later strong role of the region as a sea-power is counted as his merit. As Albrecht showed some orientation to France, emperor Charles IV was soon interested to establish friendly relations to him (so I've read, perhaps one should know more about details).
Generally Charles IV was interested in the development of trade and didn't engage much to win territory by open war.