OVERVIEW: Translation of recent Pratesi articles

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As the translation by Michael Howard from recent articles of Franco Pratesi hide in various forum contributions, it might be good to have a thread, where one can find them.
Date and numbers refer to the articles in Italian language at the page http://naibi.net
This first post will be occasionally updated.
Also I will occasionally care, that it always stays at the first page of the Research-subforum.

Added (Jan. 2017):
Michael S. Howard has published (at least) some of his translations at:
http://pratesitranslations.blogspot.de/

Added (Feb. 2017):

Franco Pratesi has republished to the web a long series of articles to games in the past 30 years

http://naibi.net ... menu
http://naibi.net/p/ ... Playing cards
http://naibi.net/b/ ... Chess
http://naibi.net/c/ ... Draughts (27 items)
http://naibi.net/d/ ... Go (50 items)
http://naibi.net/e/ ... Articoli sull’enigmistica
http://naibi.net/f/ ... various others


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List of translated articles of Franco Pratesi

2014-06-09 (3/23)
1477: Bologna – Aritmetica per carte e trionfi
http://www.naibi.net/A/323-BONOZZI-Z.pdf
1477 Bologna: Arithmetic for cards and triumphs
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1128

2014-07-01 (3/25)
1487: San Miniato - Due paia di carte da giuchare.
http://www.naibi.net/A/325-RUFFELLI-Z.pdf
1487: San Miniato - Two decks of playing cards (trans. SandyH)
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1291

2015-06-09 (4/07)
1401: Firenze – Dadi, cialde e bericuocoli
http://www.naibi.net/A/407-CIALDE-%20Z.pdf
Nuts, Waffles, and Aniseed Muffins, (trans. SandyH)
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 294#p20193

2015-07-10 (4/14)
1499-1506: Firenze - Nuove informazioni sulle carte fiorentine
http://www.naibi.net/A/IPCS44N1.pdf
1499-1506: Florence - New information on Florentine cards
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 074#p16459 and several following posts
A related article of Thierry Depaulis was also translated:
'Trionfi alia franciosa finiti e non finiti’ -Le tarot en France avant 1500
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 091#p16776

2015-10-09 (4/23)
1377: Firenze – Condanne ai giocatori di naibi
http://www.naibi.net/A/423-1377-Z.pdf
1377: Florence – Sentenced as players of naibi
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1099

2015-10-12 (4/24)
1440-1450: Firenze – Condanne per giochi di carte nei Libro de Giglio
http://www.naibi.net/A/424-GIGLIO444-Z.pdf
1440-1450: Florence - Convictions for card games in the Books of the Lily
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 881#p17880

2015-10-31 (4/25)
1451: Siena – Nuova legge sui giochi
http://www.naibi.net/A/425-SIENA1451-Z.pdf
1451: Siena - New laws on games
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 082#p16628

2015-11-07 (4/26)
1450, 1473, 1477: Firenze – Leggi sui giochi
http://www.naibi.net/A/426-FI1473-Z.pdf
1450, 1473, 1477: Florence - Laws on Games
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 082#p16591

2015-11-21
4/27. 1514: Firenze - Legge sui giochi.
http://ww.naibi.net/A/427-LEGGE1514-Z.pdf
1514: Florence: Law on games (synopsis)
viewtopic.php?p=16586#p16586

2016-01-17 (5/02)
Cremona 1441? – Elucubrazioni sui tarocchi Visconti di Modrone o Cary-Yale
http://www.naibi.net/A/502-CARYYA-Z.pdf
Ruminations on the Visconti di Modrone or Cary-Yale Tarot
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 086#p16686

2016-02-08 (5/05)
Commenti sulle carte islamiche
http://www.naibi.net/A/505-ISLAMCARD-Z.pdf
On Islamic Cards
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1096

2016-02-12 (5-06)
Trionfi milanesi e fiorentini – ipotesi e commenti
http://www.naibi.net/A/506-MIFIOR-Z.pdf
Milanese and Florentine Triumphs - Hypotheses and Comments
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... =20#p16716
and
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... =20#p16721

2016-04-26 (5/08)
Carte varie a Basilea nel 1377 o nel 1429
http://www.naibi.net/A/508-JORHEIN-Z.pdf
Various cards at Basel in 1377 or in 1429
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1095

2016-05-05 (5/10)
Carte da gioco in Europa prima del 1377 ? – Italia
http://www.naibi.net/A/510-PRE1377ITA-Z.pdf
Playing cards in Europe before 1377? - Italy
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 097#p16866

2016-05-13 (5/11)
1450ca: Firenze – Trionfi e deschi da parto
http://www.naibi.net/A/511-DESCHI-Z.pdf
Ca. 1450: Florence - Triumphs and birth trays
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1092

2016-06-02 (5/12)
Carte da gioco in Europa prima del 1377 ? Polonia
http://www.naibi.net/A/512-POLSK1377-Z.pdf
Playing cards in Europe before 1377? - Poland
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 097#p16881

2016-06-07 (5/13)
Carte da gioco in Europa prima del 1377? Boemia
http://www.naibi.net/A/513-BOHEMIA-Z.pdf
Playing cards in Europe before 1377? Bohemia
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 908#p16908

2016-06-15 (5-14)
Carte da gioco in Europa prima del 1377 ? – Buja
http://www.naibi.net/A/514-1371BUJA-Z.pdf
Playing cards in Europe before 1377? - Buja
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 7&start=40

2016-06-21 (5-15)
Carte da gioco in Europa prima del 1377? Aragona
http://www.naibi.net/A/515-ARAG1377-Z.pdf
Playing cards in Europe before 1377? Aragon.
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 939#p16939

2016-06-27 (5-16)
Il terzo foglio Rosenwald
http://www.naibi.net/A/516-ROSEN3-Z.pdf
The Third Rosenwald Sheet
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... ald#p17007

2016-08-31 (5-17)
1450ca: Firenze – Trionfi e cassoni nuziali
http://www.naibi.net/A/517-CASSONI-Z.pdf
C. 1450 - Trionfi and marriage chests
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 628#p17628

2016-09-24 (5-19)
Carte da gioco in Europa prima del 1377 ? Berna
http://www.naibi.net/A/519-BERNA-Z.pdf
Playing cards in Europe before 1377? Berne.
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... =70#p17596

2016-10-04 (5/20)
Primi trionfi, proposte contrastanti e prospettive
http://www.naibi.net/A/520-BILANCIOT-Z.pdf
Earliest triumphs: contrasting proposals and outlooks
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1120

2016-10-15 (5/21)
1450ca: Trionfi e Triumphi
http://www.naibi.net/A/521-PETRAR-Z.pdf
Ca. 1450: Triumphs and Triumphi
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... =20#p17714

2016-11-10 (5/22)
1450ca: Firenze – Trionfi e cortei cittadini
http://www.naibi.net/A/522-TRIONFICORTEI-Z.pdf
Ca 1450: Florence - Triumphs and civic processions
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... =30#p17993

2016-11-19 (5/23)
Genesi favolosa di trionfi e minchiate
http://www.naibi.net/A/523-FAVOLA-Z.pdf
Imaginary origins of triumphs and minchiate
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... =50#p18092

2016-11-26 (5/24)
1426-1440: Firenze – Condanne per giochi di carte nei Libri del Giglio
http://www.naibi.net/A/524-GIGLIO26A40-Z.pdf
1426-1440: Florence - Convictions for card games in the Books of the Lily
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... =50#p18156

2016-12-07 (5/25)
1438: Siena – Dagli Angeli all’Amore
http://www.naibi.net/A/525-SIENCAR-Z.pdf
1438 Siena – From Angels to Love
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 281#p18280

2016-21-12 (5/26)
1510ca: Assisi – Mazzo completo di 48 carte
http://www.naibi.net/A/526-ASSISI-Z.pdf
Assisi c. 1510 - Complete pack of 48 cards
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 369#p18369

2017-01-05 (6/01)
1510-1521: Carte da Perugia e città vicine
http://www.naibi.net/a/601-UMBRIA-Z.pdf
1510-1521: Cards from Perugia and nearby cities
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... 565#p18565

2017-01-18 (6/02)
Carte da gioco in Europa prima del 1377 ? Olanda
http://www.naibi.net/A/602-JANVBLOIS-Z.pdf
Playing cards in Europe before 1377? Holland
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... =10#p18654

2017 (6/02bis)
Carte da gioco in Europa prima del 1377 ? Olanda ... Addendum
http://www.naibi.net/A/602bis.pdf
Playing cards in Europe before 1377? Holland ... Addendum
http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic ... =20#p19413
Last edited by Huck on 17 Nov 2021, 08:46, edited 33 times in total.
Huck
http://trionfi.com

Re: Translation of recent Pratesi articles (overview)

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Good idea, Huck. On the last one in your list (his follow up on the preceding one in your list), which you remembered, but couldn't find my translation of:

Trionfi milanesi e fiorentini – ipotesi e commenti
http://www.naibi.net/A/506-MIFIOR-Z.pdf
Milanese and Florentine Triumphs - Hypotheses and Comments
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1086&start=20#p16716
and
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1086&start=20#p16721

There are also

1450, 1473, 1477: Firenze – Leggi sui giochi
http://www.naibi.net/A/426-FI1473-Z.pdf
1450, 1473, 1477: Florence - Laws on Games
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1082#p16591

1451: Siena – Nuova legge sui giochi
http://www.naibi.net/A/425-SIENA1451-Z.pdf
1451: Siena - New laws on games
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1082#p16628

1499-1506: Firenze - Nuove informazioni sulle carte fiorentine
http://www.naibi.net/A/IPCS44N1.pdf
1499-1506: Florence - New information on Florentine cards
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1074#p16459 and several following posts

That was my first. A related translation was of Thierry Depaulis's article reflecting on part of Pratesi's article last cited. The original is linked to, a different link for each double page, in my post.

'Trionfi alia franciosa finiti e non finiti’ -Le tarot en France avant 1500
'Trionfi alia franciosa finiti e non finiti’ -The tarot in France before 1500
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1091#p16776

Re: OVERVIEW: Translation of recent Pratesi articles

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The list at post 1 is updated so far.

I personally would find, that it is important, that ...

1477: Bologna – Aritmetica per carte e trionfi
Franco Pratesi – 09.06.2014
http://www.naibi.net/A/323-BONOZZI-Z.pdf

... is translated.

Not so urgent, but also of interest is ...

Secolo XVI: Firenze – Il nome dei germini
Franco Pratesi – 06.09.2014
http://www.naibi.net/A/332-GERMINI-Z.pdf
Huck
http://trionfi.com

Re: OVERVIEW: Translation of recent Pratesi articles

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Michael S. Howard has started to present his translations of Franco Pratesi's articles at ...
http://pratesitranslations.blogspot.de/ ... rence.html

MikeH announced the page at Aeclectic ...
Recently Franco has gotten back into the question of the origin of the tarot.

The place to start is his excellent summary of the state of current research, posted by him in Italian Oct. 4, 2016, as "Primi trionfi, proposte contrastanti e prospettive"
(http://www.naibi.net/A/520-BILANCIOT-Z.pdf), translated by me as "Earliest triumphs: contrasting proposals and outlooks", http://pratesitranslations.blogspot.com ... phs_7.html. This rather long note is commendable for its lack of bias toward any one theory, instead merely exploring alternative hypotheses.

He also has now examined all of the court records, at least those in the main registry, called the "book of the lily", of people sentenced for card playing in the period 1401-1450 in Florence. His final search, of the period 1425-1440 is in English at http://pratesitranslations.blogspot.com ... rence.html. This particular search came up with nothing about triumphs, but in his view that doesn't show anything. All told, for the entire period 1401-1450, he only came up with 2 people sentenced for playing triumphs, probably in the same incident, in 1444.

Also of interest for clues to the as yet unknown origins of the tarot, I think, is his recent research on birth trays, marriage chests, manuscripts of Petrarch's poem I trionfi, and civic processions, for the period ending around 1450 but going back, sometimes speculatively, to the beginning of the century, and mainly focusing on Florence.

I have established a blog with all my translations of Pratesi's notes that otherwise would be in Italian only--around 25 of them so far--including in the same blog entry my comments on his notes, and links to discussions by others. Most are of recent work, although the earliest go back a couple of years. Along with a short introduction by me, they are at http://pratesitranslations.blogspot.com/, so far in order of his posting them in Italian.

This general area is wide open for researchers of amateur status, including those with facility in languages other than English. For me, I know, Franco's notes have opened up whole new areas for investigation that I had not been aware of before. If anyone has something to say on the topics that Franco has been covering, this is as good a place as any to communicate it. I will be checking this thread periodically. If I miss seeing a post, don't hesitate to send me a pm. And if you are not comfortable posting, send me a pm, too, even if it is not in English, I am getting pretty good deciphering Google Translate, at least in the Latin and Germanic based languages, and I have friends who know the Slavic languages.
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... :-) ... well MikeH, indeed, that was really a great work this year ... Thank You!
Huck
http://trionfi.com