I understood, that you wanted something with the 1427 ... It was just a reference to the battle of Maclodio, 12 October 1427.... I imagined you would know this song from the 1980s. It was very popular. I'm following you Ross - even though I'm an 80s music freak, how can you not know "Der Kommisar"?...

If you disagree with this identification of the impresa on this pivotal card (moved to the highest trump along with the emergence of the papi ), then what is it? I'd say it's just a wreath, the same as that around the World in the card next door. It's typical tomb-art. The face in the circle is lik...

Phaeded wrote The date of the sheet is unknown – anywhere from the late 15th to early 16th century. On the Rosenwald Sheet, see Pratesi at http://www.naibi.net/A/516-ROSEN3-Z.pdf, which I have translated at https://pratesitranslations.blogspot.com/2017/02/jan-5-2017-1501-1521-cards-from-perugia.htm...

Phaeded wrote The date of the sheet is unknown – anywhere from the late 15th to early 16th century. On the Rosenwald Sheet, see Pratesi at http://www.naibi.net/A/516-ROSEN3-Z.pdf, which I have translated at https://pratesitranslations.blogspot.com/2017/02/jan-5-2017-1501-1521-cards-from-perugia.htm...

The Rosenwald sheet as a transition to the “Papi”? I noticed something odd when looking at the Rosenwald sheet – the otherwise standard Angel/Judgement has what appears to be an abbreviated Visconti-Sforza impresa on the face of what should be a sepulcher from which the dead are rising – the "capit...

Agree that Bembo invented a Franciscan tertiary nun with papal crown for "Ecclesia" and that it did not exist before. This appears to be a circular argument. You want to prove she is Ecclesia ; you can't first assume Bembo intended to invent Ecclesia , and then use the card as proof that he succeed...

I've personally come to the conclusion that the PMB Papess is nothing other than 'Ecclesia' (in place of the theological virtue Faith, iconographically very similar), dressed in the Franciscan tertiary nun habit due to the popularity of that in Milan (e.g., some elites were actually buried in a Fra...

Tarocco Siciliano Mitelli (Bologna) / Tarocco Siciliano http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks03/d01865/d0186520.jpg http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks07/d05236/d0523619.jpg Mitelli is said to have worked his Tarocco version between 1660-65. https://rinascimentoitalianart.wordpress.com/tarocchi-mitelli-1660/...

And yet Piscina, the oldest reference to Papi , distinguishes his two popes by noting one wears no crown. I don't see Piscina mentioning this. Are you confusing him with Anonymous? If so, the text says "due papi, uno col Regno, e l'altro senza", "two popes, one with the Reign, and the other without...

But the crowns were what mattered (with cross and keys, orb and scepter), since they distinguish the papi . Everything else is artistic embellishment. And yet Piscina, the oldest reference to Papi , distinguishes his two popes by noting one wears no crown. Added: some dictionaries of Provençal-Fran...