I think the whole thing is hogwash; Noblet has no problem with it at all.

Lovely to see you flamefrau!

Thanks for letting us know Helen, it looks beautiful. I'm sure anyone would be very lucky to get a copy, especially Lenormand fans!

Huck wrote:

robert wrote:Nice review of the forum in there...

Well, perhaps a way to get some more serious researchers into these halls here. Perhaps some other webmasters here could make similar attempts.

Hi Huck,
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this... Could you be more specific?

Two further new articles of Franco Pratesi: 1440 - STUDIES ON GIUSTO GIUSTI, 09.07.2012 http://trionfi.com/es47 *** about Giusto Giusti and the now oldest Trionfi document from September 1440 IN SEARCH OF TAROT SOURCES - AFTER 15 YEARS, 11.07.2012 http://trionfi.com/es48 *** about 14th century text...

Bea, if you don't have a Paris, you really should get a copy, it's one of a small handful of decks that I'd really recommend.

Would the World=Fame and Judgement=Eternity work for you?

For me, the challenge with Petrarch and tarot is Chastity; as Love and Death are clear, and Time works well with the Hermit.

I'm curious, since we have the notes from Florence of the silk traders selling cards, what percentage of the cards are tarot as compared to the percentage of playing cards? That would at least give us a glimpse to compare the numbers within this small, and arguably non-representational sample.

Jim, I've been reading the thread with a lot of interest, but have been consumed with my studies, so have not replied or had a chance to investigate some of your references. Some very general thoughts off the top of my head, which I'm afraid is all that I can offer at this point: Can you give some e...

Sounds like this Spanish devil is another example of a Krampus style devil. This evil visitor who takes away those who have been naughty seems to be a popular character in European mythologies. As for St Christopher, that seems an entirely different thing; the dog head is discussed on many pages abo...

Robert re: the book of hours -- have we discussed it before? I seem to recall mentioning that though the patron was french, the artist was Italian? Was it this one? (As courts integrated the families often used the same artists from different regions -- which is in part what led to the uniformity o...