I personnaly welcome about the work of Vigilio, the assumption that “barbarian” could mean from France... B-) ... :-) ... yes, I think so. When this theater play was given (for the first time) in September 1512, the cardinal of Gurk, Matthias Lang, was an important guest. Matthias Lang was clearly ...

Thanks for the reply Alain. I don't know that Bassano's poem dates to 1499 - that's just the year he died. It could be 1494. Perhaps it can be dated more precisely from internal evidence, the political subtext, etc. I understood Andrea's information in the way, that the Maccaroni counter work (from...

Thanks for passing these pieces from Andrea along, Alain. It looks like the evidence is piling in that "taroch", meaning "silly, foolish" etc., is the best etymology for tarocco/tarocchi. Ross I don't think so. For ... http://www.letarot.it/Taroch---1494_pag_pg264_ita.aspx .. &q...

I thought one version of the lot book was 1450, considerably before Minchiate. Of course, the Bollstatter and the Fränkische Losbuch is before Minchiate, but it's not clear, which came first, Lorenzo Spirito lot book or the Minchiate-Version with 40 trumps + Fool. The bpth latter use 20-20-20-20-st...

Very elegant, guys. Now permit me to ask the obvious. If the Minchiate designer was influenced by the lot book, what are the chances that the Minchiate was intended for something else besides playing a game, namely, fortune-telling? I mean, why else would he care about reconstructing, more or less,...

... nice .. -------------------------------Cancer -------------------------Pisces------Sagitta. -------------------Aquarius--------------Capricorn ---------------Leo---------------------------Aries, Scorpio ----------Taurus--------------------------------------Virgo -----Gemini----------------------...

Some remarkable points about the prophets ... Lorenzo Spirito (20 prophets) used 10 of the 22 prophets of the observed lot book. The first is in both David. The last prophet is Jacob ... possibly an association to Jacob of Compostela (Spain ?, I thought first), but there is Isaac (16), Abraham (17),...

In Plutarch's account of the battles between Seth and Horus, Horus cuts off or crushes Seth's genitals. I didn't know that. But it fits my general idea about the Hephaistos context. Huck wrote, Also we learn, that Venus and Eros became "Pisces". Venus belongs to "Pisces" in the ...

Well, it was Aschermittwoch .. Ash Wednesday ... and I replied some hours to your post and saw it disappear through some computer error ... so I'm a little frustrated. So I keep it short: I didn't follow where giving 19 to Mars and 20 to Jupiter came from, since in the text (fol. 3) these numbers bo...

Thanks for the information, on Fugger etc., Huck. I will study your two additional posts. In the meantime, I am still back on your Feb. 23 post, this time concerning the list. Huck wrote, I would think that the 3=4 position would correspond to the tarot EMPRESS. The "secret of women" migh...