Please, I need some mathematical-brain ( )

what is the possibility in the two sheets with triumphs not exist any triumphs characteristic of minchiate (as the signs of the zodiac)?????????

Hi friends,

a) somebody have the two sheets with the normal cards (not the sheet with the triumphs)?

b) Do you think the three sheets are from the some deck?

Very interesting, thanks for the development.

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Giordano Berti (Collezionar Minchiate) said:

i Germini di Ronciglione (fine sec. XVI); due fogli, oggi in possesso di collezionisti privati ma in origine contenuti in un volume dell'Archivio Notarile di Ronciglione, presso Viterbo

This book seem interesting: Stamperie, carte e cartiere nella Ronciglione del XVII e XVIII secolo: atti della giornata di studio presso la Sala riunioni della Cassa rurale e artigiana, 26 ottobre 1991 Francesco M. D'Orazi Centro ricerche e studi, 1996. I cant read it, but in the title we can found a...

OK. I found an interesting article to date this sheet... http://www.bibliotecaviterbo.it/Rivista/1979_3/Carosi.pdf Documents: 1) 1379. In the chronicle of Nicola della Tucia said "in the year 1379 come to Viterbo the cards which are called Nayl by the saracinos". Its a document known. 2) 1...

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I dont understand... why Orazi are sure the sheets are from the XVII century? I cant see any date or name of cardmarker...

Maybe I need read this book:

http://www.ronciglione-crs.it/CRS/home/ ... mmario.htm

Very interesting this don Domenico!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a curious detail ... I didn't know a heraldic emblem of Galeazzo II Visconti: a lion with a big helmet on his head.

http://www.storiadimilano.it/arte/imprese/Imprese04.htm

I dont said this helmet is the same heraldic helmet, but is curious...

Its a really good job the web of Mariano Tomatis

Very interesting, thanks for the development. %%- :) - may be related the falconer with the German hunting decks (same for the cards Guildhal)? what do you think? Spring 1461: A Milanese painter got the order to learn from Rogier van Weyden in Brussels. Roger agreed. But the painter was invited to d...