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Re: Images from a Ferrarese prophetic manuscript (1450 ca)

Two points about the Tarot de Marseille Star that seem to resonate with me are - a) The idea of the Dawn - the Morning Star - a quiet, beautiful indicator of the soon to rise Sun (or Son, in this case). quote: "The identification of Christ/God with the supreme Sun struck a deep chord within th...

Re: Images from a Ferrarese prophetic manuscript (1450 ca)

The closest cognates for the image are pictures of Aquarius and some of water-nymphs (Vitali has some), but there is no reason I can think of to put one on this card. The star in the shoulder on the figure on the Cary Sheet indicates that the figure was celestial (stars in figures was the most comm...

Re: Images from a Ferrarese prophetic manuscript (1450 ca)

You yourself do not seem thoroughly convinced about the 'meaning' of the Popess and Pope in their respective positions. Obviously they come in third and sixth, (so long as you put the Fool first, which is a conjecture on your part, since it is unnumbered). And obviously every third card after that ...

Re: Execution and martyrdom

The placid look of the VS and other Hanged Men is often noted by esotericists and card-readers, and on TarotL and AT there are threads devoted to the notion that the card actually means martyrdom or self-sacrifice rather than merely treason or painful death . Naturally I and others have dismissed t...

Re: Why this number of trumps?

The series of tarot trumps for me is one influenced by Augustine and the nature of love in Augustinian theology. Card VI and VII in the Tarot de Marseille ordering I see as I stated as representing cupiditas and fama (secular ambition)... But primarily as Amor (the power of love) and Will (that gov...

Re: Why this number of trumps?

The positions of the virtues seem to suggest, at least to me, that Love and Triumph are not merely intended to be Eros and War. The series of tarot trumps for me is one influenced by Augustine and the nature of love in Augustinian theology. Card VI and VII in the Tarot de Marseille ordering I see a...

Re: Why this number of trumps?

Following on RLG’s comment about love and Justice, I would also like to point out that the poetical treatment romantic love was given in the Middle Ages -and is still given today- made use of several war-metaphors. A romantic conquest was akin to a war loot. In general terms, the fact that we surre...

Re: Why this number of trumps?

For example, how far should we follow an hypothesis before 'assuming the meaning is there' is no longer viable? You discuss the virtue of Justice as being related to Love and the Chariot, both of which give one 'dominion' over other people. I can see dominion in the wake of a battle victory, but in...

Re: Why this number of trumps?

And each of these aspects of life is met with an appropriate virtue... ...you can't switch the virtues around (Golden Dawn style) to make astrological correspondences fit without doing violence to the original meaning. You can switch them around in a variety of ways and interpret the meanings in a ...

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