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Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

Huck wrote: Why Filippo Maria Visconti should have chosen this motif for his son-in-law? Perhaps to remind him, that Sforza, if he really would get once Milan, that he would have a natural enemy and that would be then Venice. Venice was hardly a “natural” enemy of Sforza, having already made him a ...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

Here (also not from 15th century) we recognize Medici heraldic, and the dome of Florence http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks07/d05115/d0511540.jpg ... and this card is not World, but Fame. Marco, Per my other posts on this subject, if we dispense with the later accretion of the word "World" and substit...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

Just for this detail .... “The World”: there is no encompassing circular ocean such as we find on Gloria Mundi, but rather a knight who sallies forth from a seaside domain to a maiden before an inland city on a large river. Translation: Sforza is proceeding from the southwest from Ancona/Marche loc...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

On the other hand, Kaplan also says that the fountain, which we see on the fronts of the male Lover and the Baton courts, is a Sforza device (this is also in his 1978 Encyclopedia vol. 1 p. 62). If so, that would make Batons, one of the two suits with weapons, a Sforza suit. It would make sense for...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

Michael Hurst wrote: Therefore, knowing how subjects were routinely conflated in early Italian Tarot decks, and knowing the common significance of that attribute in Florentine art, when the triumphant figure on the World card shows that same attribute, the idea becomes inescapable that a fourth vir...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

Ross, I'd also like to propose a terminal date for the PMB based on the Strength card, but first the fruits of your excellent article on this card: When Iohannis Angelus published Petrus de Abano’s images of the decans and degrees in his Astrolabium Planum in 1494, he depicted the 26th degree of Lib...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

Michael and Ross, Michael wrote: I seriously doubt that anyone has offered MORE salient iconographic precedents to support their interpretations of Tarot than I have. Ask around. I have included a number of links in this thread, but I will not repeat 12 years of posts here. Precisely why I want to e...

Re: Petrarca Trionfi poem motifs in early Trionfi decks

Michael, I was hoping you’d be joining one of these threads (and hopefully Ross inputs some more himself). I agree with the iconographic program you outlined (especially applying the fruits of the Warburg school – more on that some other time), but there are inconsistencies within your “three sectio...

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