That's really fascinating! So we have a 1543 list using Priest and Priestess rather than Pope and Popess. I've never heard this before! The full quote is - "Mundus habet primas, croceis dein Angelus alis: Tum Phoebus, luna, & stella, cum fulmine daemon: Fama necem, Crux antesenem, fortuna quadrigas...

Just some loose thoughts this morning Robert. Naturally it comes down to the Cary Sheet. From the style of clothing for one thing, it appears older than any other "TdM-type". From the clothing, it is also Italian. So it seems to be a missing link in the evolution of Tarot de Marseille designs. The d...

I think JMD's explanation for why Grimaud made this odd deck is as good as any. Why not use a normal set of French-suited court cards from the era? They just mixed two kinds of suits (Latin tarot suits, and French suits for the pips), and used the Tarot Chevaliers for Jacks when they should have use...

Eve (Moonbow* at Aeclectic) bought that copy.

£75 is still very good; I'd have paid that without thinking (my set threshold was about 120 euros, but I got it for 50 euros from Norway - plus 30 euros postage!)

Ross

I looked for years and only found the typical US $300 price-range. If you look on bookfinder.com, there are even places in the US selling it for 670 EUROS!!! that is insane. This means that all one has to do is set oneself a range, and look periodically. I hope someone snatches this one up. As for m...

Through http://www.bookfinder.com I notice that amazon.co.uk has a bookseller with a copy for 80 euros (I guess, US $120) plus shipping, in case anyone is in the market - http://www.amazon.co.uk/o/ASIN/0715610147/026-6740387-4883667?SubscriptionId=1NNRF7QZ418V218YP1R2 This is a very reasonable price...

... now maybe I can get around to talking about *my* opinion of the earliest trump order! Ross I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts Ross. I'm particularly interested in knowing if you think the Southern order is older, and also if you have thoughts that it might be from Florence (based on oth...

Thanks OnePotato, superb!

With letters of the same proportions, SELLON fits perfectly.

Ross

A further point about the 2 of Deniers is that the name Chosson has smaller and thicker letters than name François. Also, the name "Chosson" does not curve properly in relation to the curve of the banner, unlike the elegant and properly-fitted "François." I guess that the name "François" is the orig...

I think it has to be 1672 as well. Here is the argument I made on Aeclectic a few months ago - I think, if you look at the close-up at JC Flornoy's site http://letarot.com/dossiers-chauds/...-1672-1872.html the "c" must be part of a "6". Looking closely, you can see an ascending black line on the le...