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Re: Bolognese sequence

Well, now you really lose me. It seems to me that the reason the numbers weren't on the cards was to force people to memorize the sequence, to show clearly the educational purpose of the game: to play well, one has to know the steps toward salvation. It also seems to me that the most reliable way to...

Re: Bolognese sequence

Thanks, Huck. I made corrections in my post in light of your first two comments. I didn't understand your last comment. The trouble with the A B C order - theory etc. is, that it demands 22 trumps and it demands numbers. Numbers appear late in the development, and possibly also the number 22 appeare...

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Ross wrote I don't see any reason to think the Marziano-Michelino deck had any influence on the development of Trionfi, unless the trionfi were invented in the Visconti court, and then only conceptually - the idea of adding trumps to the pack…. I have explained how the Cary-Yale (CY) develops from t...

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Ross wrote I don't know of Minchiate actually played in Bologna. What is your reference? I know they made Minchiate cards in the 18th century, but I think these were for export, just like they made other kinds of foreign cards for export, especially during that century. My memory was playing tricks....

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Ross, here is a scenario for Milanese invention, one involving a popular deck following a luxury deck. In 1438, Filippo, mainly as an intellectual exercise, develops an early version of the CY, with the Michelino as his model and with 16-card suits and trumps (or whatever, it doesn't matter). Perhap...

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Unfortunately I'm using a different computer and the "edit" option doesn't show up! So I have to make my corrections to the previous post here. The first sentence of the paragraph reading "We agree, I think, that C probably was invented by the French" should read "The C order may have been invented ...

Re: Bolognese sequence

Ross wrote Why Bologna or Florence? Because Marchione Burdochio's pack was of this last kind, slightly out of reach of the lowest kind of card player. The simplest solution is that since he is from Bologna, dealing in silks (chiefly taffetà in these records), the Bolognese speciality, then his other...

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Ross wrote Why Bologna or Florence? Because Marchione Burdochio's pack was of this last kind, slightly out of reach of the lowest kind of card player. The simplest solution is that since he is from Bologna, dealing in silks (chiefly taffetà in these records), the Bolognese speciality, then his other...

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Ross wrote Why Bologna or Florence? Because Marchione Burdochio's pack was of this last kind, slightly out of reach of the lowest kind of card player. The simplest solution is that since he is from Bologna, dealing in silks (chiefly taffetà in these records), the Bolognese speciality, then his other...

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