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Re: The trump labels of France

So what Noblet had to work with was, for an image, a round tower with flames coming out of a high window, and for a label, "La Fouldre," lightning bolt. His image source did not show a lightning bolt. What was Noblet to do? He couldn't put on his card a tower on fire, copying his only image source,...

Re: The trump labels of France

(I have only a low res of the Gisaine card, due to a persistent problem with downloading from the BM.) For high resolution images from the BM you simply register your email with them - you cannot download them, they email them to you. You only have to register the once - click on 'image services' f...

Re: The trump labels of France

tarotbacks.png The backs also bring in the (possibly mid-17th century or earlier?) Nicolas Rolichon of Lyon: http://www.forum.tarothistory.com/download/file.php?id=2015 Backs of the Vieville, Noblet, AP & Rolichon. [source: Vieville, Noblet & AP = BnF; Rolichon = Larousse. Images do not reflect rel...

Re: The trump labels of France

I think you also need to take into account that cardmaking in France was a Guilded trade - card-makers did not work in isolation. Vieville and Noblet would have been members of the same Paris guild, and as near contemporaries possibly even knew each other (both Vieville and Noblet are recorded as ca...

Re: The trump labels of France

Caitlin Geofroy was the first to print Tareaux cards in France, at Lyon, in 1557. He brought the game from Italy, presumably, and he got the C-order of the trumps mostly right, except for switching IX with XI, and one other change. We do not know that Gefroy was the first to print Tarot cards in Fr...

Re: The trump labels of France

The Lover OR The Lovers? I think both Lamoureus and Lamoureux are both singular masculine forms meaning 'The Lover', not 'The Lovers'. "amoureux" in Vieville means 'in love'; and L'Amoureux in Noblet means 'The Lover' [male, singular], not 'The Lovers'. For example: The AP Lamoureus too may have th...

Re: The trump labels of France

Noblet's labels, take 2 . Here is the table with the Viéville column added; thanks to MikeH for telling me where these labels came from. Well, I thought that was me :( Not that it matters :D The Lover OR The Lovers? I think both Lamoureus and Lamoureux are both singular masculine forms meaning 'The...

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