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Re: Which of the three regional trump orders, was the original?

Don’t get hung up on the term itself, “papi”. “Papa” just has the meaning of “dad”, exactly like our “papa”. I could suggest it was a colloquial term for “grand men”, “head honchos”, “big guys”, etc. or maybe even more slangy, like “poobahs”. Historically, a more serious argument is that the term is...

Re: The three Zodiac cards in Noblet, and the Gemini in books of hours

I have no preference among the reconstructions, but I do think that Sandy has correctly pointed out the necessity of keeping the width of the card intact while making one. The Sun's face is more broad and squat than in the other reconstructions. I am not sure that the lower line indicates a second s...

Re: Which of the three regional trump orders, was the original?

Do you think the first printed deck was made in Florence, and if so, when? 1435? 1445? I certainly agree that Florence was the printing center of Italy. If the question being asked is not when the first printed deck was made, but some question about the first handmade deck, then what are we saying ...

Re: Tarocchi goes west

Sandy, you are absolutelyl right. It can be complicated on the BnF site. The fastest way is to know which manuscript you are looking for, by call number. Subject searches give varying results, depending on how imaginative, and patient, your searching is. One way to search is at Gallica, https://gall...

Re: Tarocchi goes west

Here is an authoritative statement showing the antiquity of attributing Ganymede to Aquarius: Carole Newlands, Playing with Time: Ovid and the Fasti (1995), p. 46. Newlands says it the earliest mention of this mythological attribution is (Pseudo-)Eratosthenes, in a work called “Catasterismoi” (with ...

Re: Tarocchi goes west

Sandy, in the second article you link above, by Franco Pratesi in 1988, he lists the cards in the order they trump one another in the play of the game recounted in the text, and the Bagatella is certainly among them - "Several hypotheses have been proposed above, concerning the cards described in th...

Re: Tarocchi goes west

I love these iconological excursions, Sandy. I had never thought of David and Bathsheba for the Anonymous Parisian, but even with "David" below her, why not? In the Cary Sheet's Star, since I am looking at it closely now, I am not sure it is even a woman. The chest is flat, and even if you can convi...

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