I have been re-reading the thread to try to figure out better what Ross's argument is, so I can examine it critically. I am going to say some things that probably will sound crazy and belong in the Unicorn Terrace, but if so, I would like to know why they are crazy, or more importantly, wrong-headed...

The issue raised in the last paragraph of Phaeded's post, about the CY World card's representing Prudence, is discussed in a series of posts in another thread (rather off-topic, but it came up there), starting with mine at http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=21354#p21354, in a short couple...

Phaeded wrote (http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=21360#p21360) As for Dummett, he never came close to explaining the meaning of the individual Trumps or why that selection of subjects formed the trumps; he just identified regional sequences (one only look at his book on the PMB to see ho...

Not me, Ross. Your scenario seems to me eminently reasonable, and I would think Rene I would be part of it. On this point there is Depaulis, in my translation (from http://tarotinfrancebefore1500.blogspot.com/, where I also have scans of the original): These two decks and the booklet associated with...

Thanks for your reply, Phaeded. You make me look at old pictures in new ways. I have only a few issues. Phaeded wrote, And I have no idea upon what basis you are making these false equivalences between virtues and other trumps. Justice is its own trump and has zero to do with the Love trump. The lov...

On the other issue I raised, about Rene possibly having learned tarot in Florence, there is evidence of his interest in card games, albeit not tarot specifically. Dummett, Game of Tarot , p. 47 n. 52, mentions that he refers to the card game of "Glic" in a work written in 1473. Of course 1473 is a l...

This is a reply to Phaeded on the previous page, http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=21346#p21346, Nov. 20. Phaeded wrote Not if the Lombard order didn't exist...because the 14 trump ur-tarot wasn't expanded into the 22 trump deck until the PMB of c. 1451. Sorry. I was assuming you knew my...

Wikipedia says: The 16th-century Mughal emperor Akbar played using a 12 suited deck, which is described in detail in the Ain-i-Akbari. And then goes on to describe the suits. The Ain-i[Akbari has an article of its own and has been translated into English. Portions are in Google Books, including the ...

Thanks for saying who Akbar is. Is there anything more about him, ie.g. when he lived? I think that there are two versions of the 96 card game, and he only told us one, the simpler version, for which he gives us the footnote to "B.G.," then mentioning Akbar's more elaborate version in passing with a...

I wondered about that. After describing the 96 card game he has a footnote to "BG". Then he says "The game played by Akbar was more elaborate" with a footnote to Ain . Then he says, without a new paragraph, "In north India the suits are:" followed by the four suits, in English and Hindi, with 10 num...