Thanks, Huck. You originally had "the work", which I misinterpreted, forgetting the context, as "the deck", when in fact it was the Fibbia painting that the costumes date. So ignore what I said above: it was based on my misinterpretation.

Huck recently wrote in another thread, at http://forum.tarothistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=23285#p23285 According Andrea Vitali and an expert for the history of costums Dr. Elisabetta Gnignera: "The work was painted by an unknown artist around the 30s of the 17th century." I do not know what by Andrea ...

I used Wiktionary, at the links indicated, and Greek Wikipedia, at the link indicated (both in bold). They each give further references.

Nathaniel wrote, And as it has the Chariot in the same position as Croce's list, it definitely strengthens the case for dating the Pedini manuscript to no earlier than that mid-17th century revival. Where do you see that? Chariot is between Amore and Tempra, the standard position before the virtues....

Andrea Vitali recently wrote about a tarocchi apropriati from 1648, by Bartolomeo Bocchini (Bologna 1604 - Bergamo or Venice 1648/1653), in which Chariot is before the virtues: http://www.letarot.it/page.aspx?id=881. The papi are omitted; instead, where they would be, he put the Matto. That was eith...

Here's a little more: "hymen" comes from the ancient Greek ῠ̔μήν (humḗn), meaning "thin skin, membrane" (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BD%91%CE%BC%CE%AE%CE%BD#Ancient_Greek, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hymen#Noun_5). In French, according to the latter web-page, the word has two meanings: the...

Huck: Where does the quotation from Reugelith come from? Where is the rest of the post? I do not like to comment on isolated sentences taken out of context. That said, in Wirth's case, the details on his cards are, at least in part, mnemonic devices for remembering what he says about them. So it is ...

Good point, about the Ferrarese order, Chariot-Love, possibly having contributed to the confusion in Bologna. I would add only the minor point that even if tarot ceased to be played in Ferrara after the Papacy removed the Estense as rulers (1598), it would likely have continued with the same order i...

I observe, that Libra and Germini are related to "twins", Libra has two scales and Gemini are anyway twins. I see what you are getting at, but perhaps worth noting that in traditional astrology LIbra was NOT considered a Dual Sign [there is some debate about it in modern astrology]; the dual signs ...

RLG wrote, Huck wrote: ↑ 06 Dec 2020, 01:38 ...I personally prefer to assume, that Libra+Aries and Cancer+Leo are the "4 against the other 8". 24 Libra 25 Virgo 26 Scorpio ------------ 27 Aries 28 Capricorn 29 Sagittarius ------------ 30 Cancer 31 Pisces 32 Aquarius ------------ 33 Leo 34 Taurus 35 ...