I mostly wanted to know where these Viéville labels came from, which you have now told me. From the original Vieville deck. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10510963k.r=vieville%20jeu%20des%20cartes?rk=21459;2 https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10510963k/f73.highres https://gallica.bnf.fr...

Manilius organized in pairs of opposition: Minerva-Aries ... Vulcanus-Libra Venus-Taurus ... Mars-Scorpio Apollo-Gemini ... Diana-Sagittarius Mercury-Cancer ... Vesta-Capricorn Jupiter-Leo ... Juno-Aquarius Ceres-Virgo ... Neptun-Pisces If Leo is the place of Jupiter, then Juno must have been the pl...

Still nothing that explains the Sun-Gemini, Moon-Cancer, Star-Aquarius triplet. Appollo, Gemini with Diana-Artemis, rules Gemini in the Manilius-astrology (used in Palazza Schifanoia, Ferrara, started 1469). Moon-Cancer is a common astrology connection, Moon rules Cancer. In the Manilius-astrology ...

After Geofroy in Lyon, in 1557, the story of tarot in France shifts to Paris for 150 years; there isn't another tarot deck made in Lyon or anywhere south of Paris until 1709. This is a vast expanse of time. In Paris there were three cartiers: the Anonymous Parisian, Jacques Viéville, and Jean Noble...

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As to whether Florentines of means perceived any relationship between the manuscripts they were now commissioning and the card game of Trionifi, it seems to me relevant to observe that the game was legalized in Florence in 1449, according to Pratesi's research.

1449 ? Or 1450 ?

Alberti in his theatre play in 1424 lets his hero "Philodoxus" speak: "I'm here at my triumphal procession ..."( 4th scene, begin of the scene). Well, he isn't at a chariot, but in a theatre play. Trionfo was rather common word, it could be transported in many contexts, for instance it even could me...

hi Ross, in the presented German text the author states, that "Trionfo" was used for objects on cars, but unspecifically also in various other contexts, not only in this. http://a-tarot.eu/p/2018/sc5.jpg The used expressions were different according regional conditions ("carro trionfale etc." as in ...

Name change Minchiate to Germini: Name change of games was quite common according Schreiber. I remember the explaining argument, that local game prohibitions stimulated new names for old games (possibly not from Schreiber) . Cucu had other names. Tarot-Tarocchi was a new name for an old game. It can...

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see also: Kaplan I, p. 103 https://apps.euskadi.eus/web01-apemsime/es/v09aNucleoWar/ciuMostrarFichero.do?R01HNoPortal=true&origen=PU&tipo=IM&oid=0901a0fe802cd875&soloTipoImagen=true Museo/Colección: Museo Fournier de Naipes de Álava Tipo de Fondo: Naipes Nº Inventario/Siglas: 44599 Objeto: Baraja Tí...