Hi Huck. a) Great post the last post. Thanks for the development. :) b) I dont understand well this: 16 Turm 17 Star 18 Moon 19 Sun we are agree the 16.tower is the hell? ... :-) No, it's a light ... Sagitta, lightning. Sagitta-Star-Moon-Sun ... 4 lights but sorry, the web designer by error used a ...

hi Pen, my arguments were about the placement of the Ur-Tarot-problem in time. Now I take a look at your proposal: A Procession of Earthly, Supernatural and Celestial Power and the Final Triumph of Divinity .... 8. Strength: conquers War 9. Fortune: good fortune can conquer Strength. 10. Traitor: po...

I can understand why there might be differences in opinion re. location - more difficult to get to grips with are the discrepancies between your post (#9 on this thread) and Girolamo Zorli's essay re. dates for the earliest woodcuts and the cost and usage of the cards. Pen hm ... I don't understand...

Ross G. R. Caldwell wrote:

Huck wrote:The Name of the Rose (1486)

Wow, that's superbly preserved film from the 15th century!

... Alright, I repaired it. As I've worked so much much about 15th century, I constantly write 14... automatically.

The Name of the Rose (1986)


"I don't care teaching the scriptures to the bishops"


"the pope is a fox, the abbot is a monkey"

:) This an argument ad hominem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem I dont think is a strong argument :) I think, this wasn't intended as an argument. ... hm ... but I would think, that I should recognize local hero strategies ... ... and Bologna has simply less early Trionfi documents than Ferr...

And to be honest, I no longer know who or what to believe. http://www.letarot.it/Bolognese-Industry-and-Tarots_pag_pg78_eng.aspx Pen ... :-) ... you mean this article? That's from Girolamo Zorli, a man from Bologna ... naturally he interprets the facts a little bit from a Bolognese perspective ... ...

hi Bertrand, Good evening, just to clear up certain details in my confused mind : Still in 16th century around 1560, when cheap woodcut decks existed without doubts, common Tarocchi cards were still considerably more expensive than other usual playing cards. Lollio in 1550 still states, that Tarot w...

Hm ... before I started to response to your idea I quoted you with ... Please bear in mind that this is the Unicorn Terrace , but I'm not wedded to this idea, so feel free to pick holes. demolish if you will, or just explain to me why it can't be this simple . ... so a clear sign, that I was aware, ...

I found this King Salomon ... http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/imagen/espada-salomon/rey-salomon-espada.jpg ... based on a chequered ground with 8 vertical fields in depth. The number of the horizontal fields is unclear. http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/espada-salomon.htm (no further information)